NZF player of the year
NZF player of the year
smeltz for the 2 goals vs wales.
Smeltz - three goals in last two AW games (the stand-out). Scoring for fun in A-League which is great for NZ football.
Yeah but Smeltzie's team isn't playing in the Champion's
League...
Killen for me. Nelsen injured too much.
Killy makes himself available for NZ too.
Killen for me. Nelsen injured too much.
Killy makes himself available for NZ too.
Not Nelsen, he's often injured and is never available.
Not Killen, he doesn't get enough game time and doesn't score enough goals.
My vote went to Smeltz. He scored two against Wales in a massive upset, and added one against Fiji. He is also a reliable goalscorer for the Phoenix. It's good for the NZ-based A-league team to have its top scorer a Kiwi.
Not Killen, he doesn't get enough game time and doesn't score enough goals.
My vote went to Smeltz. He scored two against Wales in a massive upset, and added one against Fiji. He is also a reliable goalscorer for the Phoenix. It's good for the NZ-based A-league team to have its top scorer a Kiwi.
Not Nelsen, he's often injured and is never available.
Not Killen, he doesn't get enough game time and doesn't score enough goals.
My vote went to Smeltz. He scored two against Wales in a massive upset, and added one against Fiji. He is also a reliable goalscorer for the Phoenix. It's good for the NZ-based A-league team to have its top scorer a Kiwi.
Not Killen, he doesn't get enough game time and doesn't score enough goals.
My vote went to Smeltz. He scored two against Wales in a massive upset, and added one against Fiji. He is also a reliable goalscorer for the Phoenix. It's good for the NZ-based A-league team to have its top scorer a Kiwi.
what do you expect?
Skippy and Jar of vinegar of kitchen sink are just too good
atm.
smeltzy
bc he's the only one of the three my two rugby playing, 8 and
12 year old, nephews had heard of. and they even asked if he was
going to be on the prem'ship highlights last night
killen = 2nd top goalscorer in the SPL is included in this year
isnt it?
Not Nelsen, he's often injured and is never available. Not Killen,
he doesn't get enough game time and doesn't score enough goals. My
vote went to Smeltz. He scored two against Wales in a massive
upset, and added one against Fiji. He is also a reliable goalscorer
for the Phoenix. It's good for the NZ-based A-league team to have
its top scorer a Kiwi.
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Skippy and Jar of vinegar of kitchen sink are just too good
atm.
If Killen could get regular gametime and score many goals (be a better player than the two you mentioned), then I would have voted for him.
Ryan Nelsen,
captain of an EPL club (injury problems, or not) is still a hell of an achievement
all 3 are helping raise the profile of football here and the profile of NZ in the wider football world
but Nelsen remains the standout for me, so close to an FA cup final - aaarghhh - that would have something the NZ media could not ignore!!!!!
captain of an EPL club (injury problems, or not) is still a hell of an achievement
all 3 are helping raise the profile of football here and the profile of NZ in the wider football world
but Nelsen remains the standout for me, so close to an FA cup final - aaarghhh - that would have something the NZ media could not ignore!!!!!
I don't reckon Nelsen is "often injured and never available" (or
are you meaning for NZ). He has played 84 games for Blackburn since
he started with them, although he did obviously miss half a season
with injury. I think Killen has been more injury prone in his
career, unfortunately.
Both are doing amazingly well- so much so that I think a lot of people now take it for granted that Nelsen is the captain of a pretty successful premiership team, and it does not get the ongoing attention and recognition he deserves. Had Killen not been injured last part of last season, I think I would have voted for him- it was great to see a kiwi consistently scoring goals at a high level. It might be his for the taking next year as he more firmly establishes himself at Celtic.
anyway, while I think both of them are great, I voted for Smeltz. I think he has captured the imagination of the nz footballing public, and the Phoenix have created such a buzz that they have been the best thing for nz football this year- and Smeltz has been a major part of that.
Both are doing amazingly well- so much so that I think a lot of people now take it for granted that Nelsen is the captain of a pretty successful premiership team, and it does not get the ongoing attention and recognition he deserves. Had Killen not been injured last part of last season, I think I would have voted for him- it was great to see a kiwi consistently scoring goals at a high level. It might be his for the taking next year as he more firmly establishes himself at Celtic.
anyway, while I think both of them are great, I voted for Smeltz. I think he has captured the imagination of the nz footballing public, and the Phoenix have created such a buzz that they have been the best thing for nz football this year- and Smeltz has been a major part of that.
I don't reckon Nelsen is "often injured and never available" (or
are you meaning for NZ). He has played 84 games for Blackburn since
he started with them, although he did obviously miss half a season
with injury. I think Killen has been more injury prone in his
career, unfortunately.
Both are doing amazingly well- so much so that I think a lot of people now take it for granted that Nelsen is the captain of a pretty successful premiership team, and it does not get the ongoing attention and recognition he deserves. Had Killen not been injured last part of last season, I think I would have voted for him- it was great to see a kiwi consistently scoring goals at a high level. It might be his for the taking next year as he more firmly establishes himself at Celtic.
anyway, while I think both of them are great, I voted for Smeltz. I think he has captured the imagination of the nz footballing public, and the Phoenix have created such a buzz that they have been the best thing for nz football this year- and Smeltz has been a major part of that.
Both are doing amazingly well- so much so that I think a lot of people now take it for granted that Nelsen is the captain of a pretty successful premiership team, and it does not get the ongoing attention and recognition he deserves. Had Killen not been injured last part of last season, I think I would have voted for him- it was great to see a kiwi consistently scoring goals at a high level. It might be his for the taking next year as he more firmly establishes himself at Celtic.
anyway, while I think both of them are great, I voted for Smeltz. I think he has captured the imagination of the nz footballing public, and the Phoenix have created such a buzz that they have been the best thing for nz football this year- and Smeltz has been a major part of that.
Ditto
Ryan Nelsen,
captain of an EPL club (injury problems, or not) is still a hell of an achievement
all 3 are helping raise the profile of football here and the profile of NZ in the wider football world
but Nelsen remains the standout for me, so close to an FA cup final - aaarghhh - that would have something the NZ media could not ignore!!!!!
Nelsen for me as well,I thought it was for the year and not just
the last few months.Agree Smeltz has done well but really in what 2
All Whites games and a handful of Phoenix games while Nelson has
had his injury troubles he played a shyte load of games in the year
being voted for and as stated captained an EPL team.captain of an EPL club (injury problems, or not) is still a hell of an achievement
all 3 are helping raise the profile of football here and the profile of NZ in the wider football world
but Nelsen remains the standout for me, so close to an FA cup final - aaarghhh - that would have something the NZ media could not ignore!!!!!
Yeah its the last 12 months and for me Killy has been stand
out. Nelsen, solid but probably not quite as impressive
whereas Smeltz has had one hell of a purple patch.
I don't think its going to be an easy decision for NZF!
If Nelson is back in NZ for the awards dinner (Nov 19), and
uninjured, do you think he will turn out for the All Whites on Nov
21 vs Vanuatu?
If Nelson is back in NZ for the awards dinner (Nov 19), and
uninjured, do you think he will turn out for the All Whites on Nov
21 vs Vanuatu?
nelsen will only be at the awards if he IS playing for the AWs
- so i dont think we get too excited yet.
Football NZ putting optimistic spin on his presence. they
should just say nothing rather than continue to create expectation
- and then perhaps we might all get a nice surprise
Would be great to see him though. here's hoping
Have to go for Killen. One of the leading scorers in the SPL last
season and although he hasn't had too much game time so far at
Celtic he's still managed to break his duck there and has played in
more than one CL match for more than just a passing few minutes.
This award is for the calendar year - Killen was injured from
December last season through to about June, so has played about 5
games in the time period. One of them was for the AW's
(against Fiji) and he was poor.
We cannot give the award to people who haven't really played
but are at big clubs - if we are doing that, we should remove
smeltz and put in Simon Elliott.
only one out of three has played in the champions league this year and he started against benfica.. so my vote is for killen
rodfarva2007-11-07 13:32:01
You can't go for Smeltz he's lucky to be nominated considering what
league he plays in. Nelsen or Killen I don't reallycare but I gave
Killed my vote.
Was there anyone else on the list before it got trimmed to these
three? How can Smeltz be the leading vote getter in this? Last
season he was plaiying in the conference... and this year he is in
the 'A League' which is no where near the standard that Nelsen and
Killen have been playing. It has to be Killen - playing for the
best team, getting playing time in Europe.
If the list was 10 would there be any players from the nzfc in
it? and what overseas based players would be on it?
For myne the rest of the nominations apart from the three
previously named would be:
Chris James - Did well at Fulham and with the under 20s.
Kris Bright - Been playing in Europe and scoring goals for fun
over there.
Rory Fallon - Another striker getting on the score
sheet.
Ivan Vicelich - One of NZ's best exports playing at a great
level in Holland.
Ben Sigmund - Breakout year for NZFC champs, All white
international.
Jason Hayne - Won oceania, nzfc, chatham cup last
season.
Andy Boyens - Playing in Toronto in MLS and doing great for
them
feedback2007-11-07 20:41:21
go smeltzy!!!!!!
he is winning bc the criteria are not clear and bc its not
just about footballing ability or league you play in. ive voted for
him bc he has done the most for the profile and cred of football in
NZ this year (via his storming contribution for the phoenix and
goals for the AWs).
Ryan is a legend and Killen has had a brilliant 15 or so
months - no question. but nelsen would win it every year if it was
based on footballing ability alone.
choice and (ir)rationale.
- Hibs and Celtic - green -
that's a no no.
- Blackburn fans tried to give me a kicking after a
Blackburn/PNE derby years ago.
- Shane plays for Phoenix.
I cast my vote for killen,after for nelsen
Killen played a magnific season with hibs,and he was called in
team by Celtic(one of the bests teams in Europe)
Nelsen was injured,but,now with Blackburn their are fifth in
Premier league.
This might sound silly, but who would an Australian vote for? Ok,
so Killen played in the Champions league, unfortunately, he was
USELESS, and is probably going to be on his way out of Celtic in
January. How can we vote for somebody who (granted is getting good
money and played in some big games) is (as an Aussie might say) a
loser at the moment. If the awards period covered the time where
Killen was scoring like a madman for hibs than he would probably be
a shoe in, but it doesn't, so he shouldn't win.
You have to give it to a winner, somebody who is performing week in, week out. Shane Smeltz is that man. He's been scoring goals like crazy, both in the A-League and for the All Whites. Surely that performance against Wales ranking as one of the best ever by a New Zealander.
As for Nelsen, why give it to him? He hasn't played for the national team in ages and probably won't even be at the awards ceremony. KTBW2007-11-09 19:58:41
You have to give it to a winner, somebody who is performing week in, week out. Shane Smeltz is that man. He's been scoring goals like crazy, both in the A-League and for the All Whites. Surely that performance against Wales ranking as one of the best ever by a New Zealander.
As for Nelsen, why give it to him? He hasn't played for the national team in ages and probably won't even be at the awards ceremony. KTBW2007-11-09 19:58:41
How could you even put Smeltz in the same breath as Nelsen, first
of all hes playing in the english premier league and is also one of
the better defenders in the league, captaining a european quality
team? and Killen, also a striker like smeltz, that plays in the
best club competition (Champions league) in the world and has
proven himself as a goal scorer in the scottish premier league. You
can in no way compare the a-league to these two leagues? also if
smeltz was any good he wouldnt have been released from conference
football in england.
I like feedbacks suggestion also...
My vote would go to KRIS BRIGHT as he has been playing in the dutch league which is definitly better quality than the a-league.
I like feedbacks suggestion also...
My vote would go to KRIS BRIGHT as he has been playing in the dutch league which is definitly better quality than the a-league.
This might sound silly, but who would an Australian vote for? Ok,
so Killen played in the Champions league, unfortunately, he was
USELESS, and is probably going to be on his way out of Celtic in
January. How can we vote for somebody who (granted is getting good
money and played in some big games) is (as an Aussie might say) a
loser at the moment. If the awards period covered the time where
Killen was scoring like a madman for hibs than he would probably be
a shoe in, but it doesn't, so he shouldn't win.
You have to give it to a winner, somebody who is performing week in, week out. Shane Smeltz is that man. He's been scoring goals like crazy, both in the A-League and for the All Whites. Surely that performance against Wales ranking as one of the best ever by a New Zealander.
As for Nelsen, why give it to him? He hasn't played for the national team in ages and probably won't even be at the awards ceremony.
You have to give it to a winner, somebody who is performing week in, week out. Shane Smeltz is that man. He's been scoring goals like crazy, both in the A-League and for the All Whites. Surely that performance against Wales ranking as one of the best ever by a New Zealander.
As for Nelsen, why give it to him? He hasn't played for the national team in ages and probably won't even be at the awards ceremony.
Killen if he was playing in the A-league would score goals
like crazy. Your logic for giving it to Smeltz seems to be because
he plays in the A-league and can get starts but Killen can't get
starts playing in a much better competition.
Smeltz wins this easy. Hes scoring goals in the A-League -has
scored afew for the AW and would deffently be a target for a Euro
club to nabb.
For a guy thats scoring goals and is playing Locally , ucant
ask for more then that.
And the A-League is not some Bums league for
has-beens.
Nelsen- Captaining an EPL side challenging for a top four position.
The fact that he is captaining the team (obviously) means that he
is one of the first names down on the coaches sheet. Couldn't say
the same about Killen. Smeltzy is obviously class, but not the same
class that the other two are part of. Nelsen will win hands down-
and I can't understand how the hell Smeltzy's winning the poll
(although agree with ML in that the guidelines for the award are
pretty ambiguously defined).
Smeltz wins this easy. Hes scoring goals in the A-League -has
scored afew for the AW and would deffently be a target for a Euro
club to nabb.
For a guy thats scoring goals and is playing Locally , ucant
ask for more then that.
And the A-League is not some Bums league for
has-beens.
pretty sure smeltz isnt a huge target for european
clubs..
Havent read the criteria here, but if its lifting profile of the
game locally, give it to Smeltz.
If we're talking about actual football ability then you have
to give it to Nelsen.
Killen is playing for a BIG club, but he's not playing very
often, and not scoring goals as a result. He had a storming year
last year, and good on him for getting the Celtic contract. But
like someone else said, there's every chance he will be released in
January.
Nelsen is one of the best defenders in the EPL. He hasn't been
playing that much, granted. But anyone who can be injured for
long periods and walk straight back into a backline of a European
contending EPL side (and grab back the armband) has my vote over
someone who has scored a few (and it is only a few...) goals in the
A League.
If someone offers Smeltz a European contract I will be happy
to reconsider (one good game against Wales doesnt earn you a
contract OR a title as the best footballer in NZ).
Smeltz for goals for Phoenix and Wales. Nelsen hasn't done enough for NZ, and Killen has gone quiet recently
How could you even put Smeltz in the same breath as Nelsen, first
of all hes playing in the english premier league and is also one of
the better defenders in the league, captaining a european quality
team? and Killen, also a striker like smeltz, that plays in the
best club competition (Champions league) in the world and has
proven himself as a goal scorer in the scottish premier league. You
can in no way compare the a-league to these two leagues? also if
smeltz was any good he wouldnt have been released from conference
football in england.
I like feedbacks suggestion also...
My vote would go to KRIS BRIGHT as he has been playing in the dutch league which is definitly better quality than the a-league.
I like feedbacks suggestion also...
My vote would go to KRIS BRIGHT as he has been playing in the dutch league which is definitly better quality than the a-league.
Yeah but he's playing like third division, quality wise thats
almost as sh*te as playing NZFC!