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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

I reckon a 36 or 40 team WC with direct OFC entry is more likely than the confederation system breaking up or NZ joining AFC

Edit: or any other confederation giving up a half spot...

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almost 11 years ago

I reckon a 36 or 40 team WC with direct OFC entry is more likely than the confederation system breaking up or NZ joining AFC

If that was the case the OFC should have 1.5 spots.

Mr Positive

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almost 11 years ago

Royz wrote:

I reckon a 36 or 40 team WC with direct OFC entry is more likely than the confederation system breaking up or NZ joining AFC

If that was the case the OFC should have 1.5 spots.

Based on what? Maybe in a 40 team comp but in a 36 team one 1.5 spots seems too generous

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almost 11 years ago

1 spot seems generous to me. How would a 36/40 team World Cup even work? 32 really is the perfect number.

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almost 11 years ago

40 teams is easy. 8 groups of 5 teams, there just an extra round of games in the group stage (every team plays 4 instead of 3), and then the rest of the tournament structure stays the same.


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almost 11 years ago

Royz wrote:

I reckon a 36 or 40 team WC with direct OFC entry is more likely than the confederation system breaking up or NZ joining AFC

If that was the case the OFC should have 1.5 spots.

Based on what? Maybe in a 40 team comp but in a 36 team one 1.5 spots seems too generous

Not that i care for Oceania, However with 1.5 places it would give incentives to grow the game further with in the island nations and something to play for. I think the 8-1 score lines would be reduced. Yet we cant even beat a Thailand B national team.

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

patrick478 wrote:

40 teams is easy. 8 groups of 5 teams, there just an extra round of games in the group stage (every team plays 4 instead of 3), and then the rest of the tournament structure stays the same.

Except having byes in the final round of matches makes it too easy for teams to deliberately play out draws if they know they will both go through - and in groups of 5 that's inevitable. That's why all final group games are played simultaneously these days.

A 36 team comp could have 9 groups, winners and 7 best 2nd placed sides go through. Would only add 6 games to the tournament too

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

Royz wrote:

Royz wrote:

I reckon a 36 or 40 team WC with direct OFC entry is more likely than the confederation system breaking up or NZ joining AFC

If that was the case the OFC should have 1.5 spots.

Based on what? Maybe in a 40 team comp but in a 36 team one 1.5 spots seems too generous

Not that i care for Oceania, However with 1.5 places it would give incentives to grow the game further with in the island nations and something to play for. I think the 8-1 score lines would be reduced. Yet we cant even beat a Thailand B national team.

Yeah fair enough about the first bit, although I wouldn't read that much into friendly results like the Thailand one. USA just beat Holland and Germany in freindlies, doesn't mean they are a better side than hose two

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

I'm sure the AFC would allow us to join I cant see a reason why they wouldn't as we are a no better national side then the rest of ASEAN. I think its Oceania that wont let us leave. Mr Chung enjoys the handouts and power trips.

Mr Positive

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almost 11 years ago

I remember reading that amusing news about NZ potentailly joining CONMEBOL. In terms of distance it wouldn't be worse than going to some Asian countries like Lebanon. 

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almost 11 years ago

Royz wrote:

Here is a good write up of how leaving the OFC and Joining the AFC and it regional confederation has help a small island nation.

http://www.playthegame.org/news/news-articles/2009/north-mariana-exit-weakens-oceania-football-confederation/

Travel was a major factor in this, the Northern Mariana's are very close to Guam (50 min flight) and the Philippines (6.5 hour flight) while Auckland is a 21 hour flight. The Oceania Confederation actually encouraged Northern Marianas to join Asia because it wasn't in a position to help them

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almost 11 years ago

[/quote] Not that i care for Oceania, However with 1.5 places it would give incentives to grow the game further with in the island nations and something to play for. I think the 8-1 score lines would be reduced. Yet we cant even beat a Thailand B national team.

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In 2002 Saudi Arabia lost 8-0 to Germany, yet no one seems to question Asia's ability at the world cup

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almost 11 years ago

[/quote] Not that i care for Oceania, However with 1.5 places it would give incentives to grow the game further with in the island nations and something to play for. I think the 8-1 score lines would be reduced. Yet we cant even beat a Thailand B national team.

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In 2002 Saudi Arabia lost 8-0 to Germany, yet no one seems to question Asia's ability at the world cup

That's because Sth Korea's success in 2002 over shadowed it, In fact it provided the (so called) justice to AFC having 4.5 WC spots.

Mr Positive

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almost 11 years ago

Watching the NZ Portugal U20 game the English/FIFA(?) commentators said that Oceania was a waste of time and the quicker its amalgamated with Asia all the better for all Oceania nations as they will ALL get more games to play then the current status quo.

while clearly helping NZ it would also benefit Fiji, New Caledonia, Tahiti and the Solomon Islands.

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almost 11 years ago

Maybe. The OFC Nations may just be relegated to playing each other if we join Asia. Asia seems to have preliminary qualification rounds which get rid of the really shark teams early.

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almost 11 years ago

Ryan54 wrote:

Maybe. The OFC Nations may just be relegated to playing each other if we join Asia. Asia seems to have preliminary qualification rounds which get rid of the really shark teams early.

True but I have a feeling that the better Oceania teams are a step above a large number of Asian teams.

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