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Rory Fallon Club vs Country Problems

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Rory Fallon Club vs Country Problems
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Article from Todays Devon "Western Morning News" about Rory having to chose club over county:

http://www.thisiswesternmorningnews.co.uk/sports/COLLISION-COURSE/article-1694272-detail/article.html?cacheBust=B7xLyTzqBE5w&success=true#community

Argyle on collision course

PLYMOUTH Argyle could find themselves on a collision course with the New Zealand football authorities over the services of striker Rory Fallon.

The Pilgrims' front-runner scored the goal which gave New Zealand victory over Bahrain in a World Cup qualifying play-off last year, and took the All Whites to this summer's World Cup finals in South Africa.

New Zealand's first friendly game since they booked their ticket to South Africa will be against Mexico in Los Angeles, California, on Wednesday, March 3. The match will take place on an official FIFA international date, which means that countries can demand the release of their players by clubs.

The notion of Fallon flying off to the west coast of the United States during that week is unlikely to go down well with Plymouth, however. Argyle face Coca-Cola Championship fixtures on the Saturday before and the Saturday after the midweek international date.

The Pilgrims have an away game at Sheffield United on Saturday, February 27, and a home match against Preston North End on Saturday, March 6. Fallon wants to do all he can to help Argyle pick up points to aid their quest to avoid relegation from the Championship, and he is prepared to miss out on the trip to California to play in the Pasadena Rose Bowl.

When Fallon was asked by the Western Morning News if he expected to have to go to Los Angeles, he replied: "I've told the gaffer [Argyle head coach Paul Mariner] that it's up to him.

"Plymouth is my number one [priority], so it's really his decision. I've put it in his hands. I told him I wouldn't be upset if he didn't let me go, because I know he wants me 100 per cent for the games around that time.

"The problem with friendlies," Fallon added, "is that you can pick up injuries, and I'm not really a friendly type of player! I'm all or nothing, with the way I play."

The potential problem for Fallon and Mariner is that New Zealand may well expect Fallon and their other UK-based players to make the long journey to the United States, however. One of the reasons for choosing to play a friendly in Los Angeles, rather than in New Zealand or somewhere more remote, was the ease of access from the UK.

Ricki Herbert, the All Whites' coach, said: "We have the legal right to bring in the players and, given what we're doing later in the year, it would be in everyone's best interests to make themselves available for this game.

"It's important, given the stature of the game and where we're at," Herbert added. "It's one simple flight, so hopefully we won't have too many objections. We like to think we'd be able to get the full squad."

A final decision on whether or not Fallon crosses the Atlantic in March is unlikely to made until some time next month. For now, the striker is free to concentrate on his club career.

Fallon has been a key part of a Plymouth side who have won their last two Championship fixtures, and have drawn with Newcastle United in the third round of the FA Cup to set up tomorrow's replay on Tyneside. The New Zealander has enjoyed playing for Argyle head coach Paul Mariner.

Fallon believes that Mariner's enthusiasm can help the Pilgrims to climb out of the Championship relegation zone. "He's just one of those positive people that you love to be around," the centre-forward said. "He instils confidence in everyone.

"I haven't heard him say one bad thing about anyone yet, and that's what you need at a club when you're struggling. We're a team, and we're all in this together.

"If we're talking about negatives all the time, it's going to be negative," Fallon added. "If we talk about positives, then everything is going to be positive. That's what he [Mariner] is trying to instil. That's the way I like to do business as well � to be as positive as possible.

"The training has stepped up a level, and everyone is really up for it. You can see that in the performances. The gaffer has done really well in the time [at the helm] he has had."



disco_mart2010-01-14 00:43:10
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He doesnt want to play in friendlies,he only came on board for the world cup is what ive always figured.

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i think thats pretty hash. hes in a difficult position. They are battling relegation.
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He could hardly tell his local paper that he wanted to fly off to play for NZ while the club were battling for survival could he?
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Rock.......Fallon......Hard place
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                Stuck   
 
Hopefully he's available but no hard feelings if he isn't. After all, who pays his salary?

Its no longer a problem.

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 attempted wind up

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Herbert has done all he can to make it as easy as possible for euro players, while still playing a latin opponent - made sure it was a 1 flight venue. Its a FIFA window. Plymouth can f**k off.
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aitkenmike wrote:
Herbert has done all he can to make it as easy as possible for euro players, while still playing a latin opponent - made sure it was a 1 flight venue. Its a FIFA window. Plymouth can f**k off.


tough language there. 

TBH he's not put the ball in the net since Wellington and I know many fans would rather have a prolific goal scorer play.  You could say he's Argyle's Kwasnik!
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aitkenmike wrote:
Herbert has done all he can to make it as easy as possible for euro players, while still playing a latin opponent - made sure it was a 1 flight venue. Its a FIFA window. Plymouth can f**k off.


Agree with this.

Fallon should grow up and join a cooler team.
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I don't really blame Fallon,although not happy with the " I'm not really a friendly type of player! I'm all or nothing, with the way I play." It sounds kinda pompous to me (and reinforces an impression I am getting from him - Rory Fallon T Shirt debacle). As said before, he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. His manager needs to make it easy - its a FIFA window, it's a one flight trip, let the bloke go.
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loyalgunner wrote:


Fallon should grow up and join a cooler team.


Chants of "piss off back to Woolwich" from us Argyle fans!!!  

I was gutted that the game was snowed off last weekend as I was looking forward to watching Argyle beat QPR away at Shepherds Bush again.
disco_mart2010-01-15 09:40:13
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I think he should play the friendly.
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There are some comments on Stuff - ye gods and little fishes some people are munters.  Apparently he hasn't done much for the AW's.  Oh and hockey is much better, and footballers are all pansies.
 
I'm of the opinion that he's asked hes boss, and that's cool.  His boss pretty much has to release him since it's a FIFA international window, so in his own way he's done what he needs to do.
 
Addicks2010-01-15 11:06:48

14/11/09

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I'm gonna reign myself in and assume that this is actually a media beatup on an out of context non story, that he will be there, and there is no issue.
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"I have told the gaffer (coach Paul Mariner) it's up to him. Plymouth is my number one," Fallon said.

"I told him I wouldn't be upset if he didn't let me go because I know he wants me 100 percent for the games around that time.

"The problem with friendlies is that you can pick up injuries, and I'm not really a friendly type of player. I'm all or nothing with the way I play."

Well this is what he has said apparently. Not really endearing himself to me especially plus the t shirt problems. Guess he wants to be left out of all the pre world cup warm ups then? Idiot. I understand the club is his livelihood, but the fact is the game against Mexico is for the Euro players.

Really hope this doesn't become a big deal either way. If he doesn't play though we have plenty of strikers and could try a more conventional formation.
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The funny thing is, I actually think Wood and Killen are better players, so if this means that these two get a chance to put themselves in front of him (If Killen isn't already) then I am OK with that.
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If he doesn't want to come, give him the flick.... what do you reckon?
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It's not up to the gaffer, it's a FIFA window.

He should be behind Wood, Killen and Smeltz in the pecking order anyway, perhaps he'll demote himself to the bench, which is fine by me.

And as a person he seems a bit of a t**ser to be honest.
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If he doesn't want to come, give him the flick.... what do you reckon?
Id rather our best players be available. Though id also rather them want to play for NZ.

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This is part of the build up for the tournament, we need him there, and I think he should accept that.  We give our players a lot of leeway in that they often are excused from friendlies or matches against the islands but this IS important, and it's not just an ordinary random friendlyjames dean2010-01-16 00:39:15

Normo's coming home

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Interesting that becuase of this link I started the NZPA decided to put out an article.  I wonder if we would be having this conversation if I didn't read average British newspapers. disco_mart2010-01-16 01:02:39
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SC03 wrote:
It's not up to the gaffer, it's a FIFA window.

He should be behind Wood, Killen and Smeltz in the pecking order anyway, perhaps he'll demote himself to the bench, which is fine by me.

And as a person he seems a bit of a t**ser to be honest.


A short FIFA window though is the issue here.
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SC03 wrote:

And as a person he seems a bit of a t**ser to be honest.


His attitude is not unusual among professional sportspeople, but on the other hand he is a Christian, and we all know Jesus said "Blessed are the arrogant superstars, because they are much too good for puny humans".

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