Scored for nz verse wales and ukraine

Scored for nz verse wales and ukraine

NZ 0 Wales 6

Thanks for the encouragement.... if we had all our best players we could beat Wales and maybe scrape a result against the Ukraine.

Wales- 0          NZ- 1            

Vichilich is gone now aswell...

i dont think the scores will be as bad as you're saying Celtic, maybe 2-1 vs Wales and 4-0 vs Ukraine (the goal against Wales is only if we actually bother to have a good striker/s up front, not Smeltz as i've read)


i'll support our boys til i die, but im also being realistic...
gings2007-05-20 17:52:05

It all comes down to the players. If our guys are up for it who knows what will happen. But we can't give the opposition too much respect. I'd be disappointed if our blokes were busy trying to grab autographs or thinking who's shirt they are going to nab after the game. The have to simplify it down to the opposition are human, the same as us. Then we need the players to mentally be in the frame. It's also another shopping window opportunity for some All Whites who are"unattached" to show what they got.

TBH I've given up the ghost on any chance of a result. Its the style of football we will play that I am most interested in. 4-5-1 suggests we are hoping to sneak a lucky goal. Our inexperienced backline tells me we will need a lot more than one flukey goal though. 

wales 2-0, ukraine 4-0. We cant score to save ourselves. Even class play in our world such as Leo wont even crak them. If the selectors keep selecting players such as Brockie then they have no chance. Skill is what i want in the team not people that jst chop players. Cause that is what we are known for!

I think we might pinch a draw vs Wales - they are almost going to be fielding a b team by all accounts - but Ukraine will put a couple or more past us. I can't see us scoring, which is a huge worry, yet again.

i just want to know why Smeltz is seen as the premier striker in that squad...that really says something about our nation's footballing prowess.

...unless A) the Sunday News is way off OR B) we are trying to lull them into a fake sense of security by subbing him after 10 minutes, if so, Nicely Planned Mr Herbert!

Sadly that is the way it is, we just don't breed strikers around here. The last quality striker we had was Wynton Rufer. You've only got to watch any NZFC game to spot the "barnyard door" nature of Kiwi strikers. Look at the current stats: Totori, Young, Menapi and Jordan...all ineligible for the All Whites, yet these are the guys that top the goalscoring charts. The day you see Kiwi-born strikers dominating the goalscoring stats is the day we are starting to breed 'em. So it's not Herbert's fault. He's only able to deal with what is available and right now its bloody thin up front. Oh, and what does the Sunday News know about NZ football? Honestly, you're wasting good cappuccino money purchasing that rag for football news.

Watching Giggs in the FA Cup Final. He is going to sh1t all over us.

i wasnt blaming Herbs, as you said, he can only work with what he's got...but Smeltz?

i couldn't agree more about the state of the NZ front line game. Do ya think Wynton will come out of retirement?


and we all know Sunday News is rubbish for Football news. I read it for the rest of the sport news whcih isnt too bad.
gings2007-05-21 12:28:38

I reckon we lose 2-0 to both.

No chance of picking up a 0-0 draw with wales.

I'd be very surprised if Giggs and Bellers started. They do have a Euro championship qualifier against the Czech Republic a week after playing the All Whites and with our reputation of being a little agricultural, I suspect they will be on the bench. Regardless of that, I know that Norwich City striker Robbie Earnshaw is rated in the top 10 players in the Championship and he scored around 19 goals for the Canaries this season just ended. I think he has a strike rate of around 25 goals in 39 games for Norwich so that is an extremely good return. I hope whoever is marking Earnshaw is switched on, otherwise he is good enough to kill us off.

What about Urlo or Kopravic? Probably the 2 best strikers eligable for the All Whites in the NZFC

Scored Player Name   10 Koprivcic Daniel - Waitakere Utd   9 Pearce Allan - Waitakere Utd 8 Fisher Brent - Canterbury Utd   7     Messam Sam - Hawke's Bay Utd   Williams Matt - Waikato FC 6 Halstead Peter - Team Wellington   McIvor Chris - Hawke's Bay Utd   Urlovic Paul - Auckland City 5 Robinson Ian - YoungHeart Manawatu   Seaman Paul - Auckland City   Sykes Neil - Auckland City 4   Draper Greg - Canterbury Utd     Knox Nathan - Canterbury Utd   Laird Hayden - YoungHeart Manawatu 3 Barbarouses Costa - Team Wellington   Barron Andy - Team Wellington   Batty David - Team Wellington   Fleming Partick - Otago Utd   Fyfe Graham - Hawke's Bay Utd     Holten Nathan - Waikato FC   Little Bryan - Auckland City   Wilson Michael - Team Wellington   Wilson Stu - Waikato FC

Top Kiwi goal scorers from this season in the NZFC

If he's signing brockie as he has stated then surely he rates him better than smeltz so brockie to start.

they probably dont want to burn out Costa. but yeah, it would have been great to see him get a chance against top quality opposition

I think the cancellation of the game against the Ukraine suggests the powers that be were thinking along the same lines as CelticFC's original suggestion - an 8-0 scoreline!

I wouldn't put it past Wales to take this one too lightly, and I'd love to see an unheralded NZ squad of lower-level players pull of the big upset. Maybe with just the one game on the tour they'll be able to focus enough energy into this match to get a result, and maybe with all this negative press NZ Football is getting, the players will really want this one badly to stuff in the media's face.

whos gonna score?

i reckon if we keep them to 2 or 3 then thats greta but i have optimism of a scorelss draw