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Stand Out Un20's

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Stand Out Un20's
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Who should be looked at by overseas clubs?
 
My top 5
 
Boxall - read the game well, hard as nails.
Spoonly - excellent positioning, made no mistakes, good reation saves.
Draper - excellent running off the ball (work rate) very good in the air, holds the ball well
Keat - Good off bot hfeet - did create a couple chances.
Brockie - has experience - misses a sitter, but had a couple efforts saved, set up team mates with good oppotunities, worked hard.
 
Worst 5
Roydhouse - lack of skill evident for a wide player, poor crossing.
Our R/m never really involved.
Peverly - non existant up to the last game. not good enough for a cm.
Ian hogg - can't pass to save himself.
Stu Jacobs - to negative, it showed him on the side line telling his players off for passing and not taking it long. Tactics againts Gambia - went out to defend, shown by his 20th minute subbing of Pev for Draper... realised now he'd have to score two, not poach 1.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Add Shcaffers to your worst list.

Agree with your top 5.
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I still haven't seen all of the NZ v Mexico game yet, but I think Sam Jenkins did a pretty fine job.  He was creative in a team that was lacking in that area a little, he took on the Portugas with the ball at his feet and he had a good work rate.  Positive player.
 
Apart from that I would have to agree with TouchMe (dodgy name by the way).  Spoonley was a standout, Draper a revelation and Boxall was a real workhorse. 
 
I wonder which will be snapped up by other clubs and when Ricki will be announcing his U20 players.
 
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Boxall, Jenkins, Spoonley and Draper were ur best players by a mile they all looked comfortable at that level!! 
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I don't know about all looking comfortable at that level. I'd say only Spoonley stood out the others had their moments but couldn't get the better of any of their opposition midfielders for a sustainable amount of time.
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I watched most of the Mexico game, i dont know the players too well but the guy on the right made some good runs, not afraid to beat his man and some good skill shown. Boxall hard as a rock.

I have to agree with the person in this thread about Stu Jacobs...all he does is try to make excuses etc in post match interviews. i hate long balls...number 1 rule..keep it to feet!!!

Much better 2nd half than 1st half. few more chances created.

about Brockie - isnt he stil tied to Sydney FC this season which will rule him out?? im not so sure about him..his touch is lackin somewhat. perhaps just needs more time to develop his game and mature. i saw a good opportunity that opened up in the 1st half of the mexico game with options to his left and right...he went right but hit it way too hard and it went dead.
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Keat shud be added to worst 5!!!
 
What is he gud at???
 
The answer....Nothing!!!
 
Bollocks player........... disgrace not having Michael White, Michael Madden, or George Barbarouses in that team!!!
 
Cunningham is better than Keat also
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about Brockie - isnt he stil tied to Sydney FC this season which will rule him out?? im not so sure about him..his touch is lackin somewhat. perhaps just needs more time to develop his game and mature. i saw a good opportunity that opened up in the 1st half of the mexico game with options to his left and right...he went right but hit it way too hard and it went dead.


Released at the end of last season.

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Thought Keats workrate was outstanding - quality passing throughout the team was lacking I thought.
 
Spoonley, Boxall, Pelter, Keat, Edgington, Draper were my picks.

Peoples Republik of Aucklandia

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i guess workrate is going to win you games at u20s is it??
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My point was that he was far from the worst player on the pitch - our passing more than anything let us down and all of them were guilty of that at some point.

PROAK2007-07-10 22:05:54

Peoples Republik of Aucklandia

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Keats name keeps coming up throughout the threads. He seemed to pass the ball without losing it, cross it in to where it should be, not panic, keep his head.
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U are joking man!!!
Keat was shocking and kept giving it away when under no pressure!!!
 
Now this is the last time I post about Keat coz the guy was a joke in fact alot of people who are gengas are embarrassed to be associated with such a pathetic player...fancy him being our captain!!!
 
Captain of Joke United!!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Top 5
 
Spoonley
Boxall
Peters
Brockie
and Draper
 
Gud bye for now!!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Who was our right mid anyway?

Three for me, and two for them.

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I thought Keat worked hard but his distribution was quite wasteful at times. I thought Boxall was an immense presence, but like the rest of the Kiwis defence was found wanting a bit at times by the guys with pace. Draper did look impressive for a 17 year old, but if he wants to kick on he has to be more clinical in front of goal, has good pace though. I thought Brockie looked to have improved a little bit, he had a few good passes, but if he wants to play up front he has to work on his finishing, personally  i think he is better playing wide and running at defenders. I thought the fullbacks and Edgington looked a bit out of their depth and Roydhouse didn't really impress, especially at set-pieces. I thought New Zealand would realise it would be an uphill battle for them to get results so they would work really hard on set pieces, but they were really quite disjointed at times. Overall good effort lads, I tried not to diss the Kiwis too much because they did their best I'm sure.
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Buffon II wrote:
Who was our right mid anyway?
  Sam Jenkins was our right midfield

Will be interesting to see if Spoonley does sign! Wonder if he had any offers or interest from Europe?
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I think Roydhouse's mullet would draw enough cult fans to make up for his lack of technical ability. Phalio2007-07-11 14:17:43
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Not being a cynic, but how was Jeremy Brockie one of the better players in the NZ side at the U-20 tournament?
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Phalio wrote:
I think Roydhouse's mullet would draw enough cult fans to make up for his lack of technical ability.
 
Nope. Like my mate said "People with haircuts like that shouldn't be allowed to play". I nodded my head in agreement.

Three for me, and two for them.

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so who is gonna step up for the Phoenix for pre-season? Anyone betting on Spoonly or Draper? Feverish2007-07-12 23:03:25

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Spoonley is going to England for 2 weeks, well at least his parents are

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Possibly  Im not sure whats the  go.  I want him to sign as  much as the next person, Ive even   asked him to   sign but during a WBA  trial he only just missed out and that was a couple of seasons ago. I say  hes going to Europe or the States
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for sure keat and spoonley
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I still haven't seen all of the NZ v Mexico game yet, but I think Sam Jenkins did a pretty fine job.  He was creative in a team that was lacking in that area a little, he took on the Portugas with the ball at his feet and he had a good work rate.  Positive player.
  
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I agree. Sam Jenkins played well and was prepared to take on the defenders. He made some good runs and got in some decent crosses too.
 
 
[QUOTE=pao1908]Not being a cynic, but how was Jeremy Brockie one of the better players in the NZ side at the U-20 tournament?
 
I've said it before, but apart from Brockie missing a couple of sitters, his all round play was pretty good. He seemed comfortable at that level and was able to read the game well. Yes, he may have overcooked one or two passes, but most of the time his passing was quality. 
 
I would definitely have him in our top 5. Perhaps, the fact that he's played for the Knights and Syndey FC we are too quick to knock him. A bit of the tall poppy syndrome I suspect. I'd prefer to see us NZ fans channel our energy into willing the guy on more. (But like that would ever happen). 
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i think yugoboss is to harsh on keat! he has talent and yeah he did give ball away but he worked his arse off and has the skills to represent new zealand in future years! remember nz are not going to beat teams with a superiortechnical game, so we have to try and compete with heart and aggression! draper, spoonley and henderson were quite good? barboroses should have been there though!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ok guys i was at the nz games (2 of them) during the u20 world cup and keat was amazing even though he gave a few balls away. the kid is a workhorse and he never gives up and deserves that captains armband for sure. i would be proud to have him play for my team. he has major potential. also spoonley was great in goal
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I watched the Gambia and Mexico games, Spoonley seemed the only decent player, and maybe Draper as well. What was with Brockie's finishing??
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