Trialist
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5
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Makes sense. I guess he/his agent is probably using the opportunity to raise his profile in the UK by being 'in-demand' in the hope of getting a job offer later when he's finished with his Bahrain stint.

Legend
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15K
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almost 17 years

I don't mind a Mike Hesson type appointment with the national team...

Lawyerish
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over 13 years
My two cents is that dowie is in the final three and will get the gig. My balls my word
TV
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Terrible if so. Ramon/Neil done

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huge wrote:

Makes sense. I guess he/his agent is probably using the opportunity to raise his profile in the UK by being 'in-demand' in the hope of getting a job offer later when he's finished with his Bahrain stint.

This

Hudson comes across as super ambitious. Why would he turn down  a chance to coach Bahrain in a fairly major tournament next January??( Asian Cup). If he does well there he will put him self in the shop window for bigger and better jobs.However If he took the AW job he would get the occasional friendly match then over the next two years he would disappear into the wilderness of Honiara, Noumea etc with the Oceania WC playoffs. The carrot would be Confederation Cup in 2017 but you would hardly imagine that would be a big enough incentive to spend the next two or three years in a football backwater on low pay and poorly resourced. 

If it is down to Ramon, Farina or some old UK hack then please please let it be Ramon. He could get a two year appointment and they could reassess it when they see how he has done after the Oceania qualifiers. I could accept Ramon....but Farina..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

Legend
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I hope it's Farina just to piss off Hard News

Marquee
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over 17 years

austin10 wrote:

huge wrote:

Makes sense. I guess he/his agent is probably using the opportunity to raise his profile in the UK by being 'in-demand' in the hope of getting a job offer later when he's finished with his Bahrain stint.

This

Hudson comes across as super ambitious. Why would he turn down  a chance to coach Bahrain in a fairly major tournament next January??( Asian Cup). If he does well there he will put him self in the shop window for bigger and better jobs.However If he took the AW job he would get the occasional friendly match then over the next two years he would disappear into the wilderness of Honiara, Noumea etc with the Oceania WC playoffs. The carrot would be Confederation Cup in 2017 but you would hardly imagine that would be a big enough incentive to spend the next two or three years in a football backwater on low pay and poorly resourced. 

If it is down to Ramon, Farina or some old UK hack then please please let it be Ramon. He could get a two year appointment and they could reassess it when they see how he has done after the Oceania qualifiers. I could accept Ramon....but Farina..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

It does beg the question why the chief executive is picking the head coach.  Football decisions should be made by football people

Appiah without the pace
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19K
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almost 17 years

FDJ is on the panel

TV
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over 13 years

Even costa rica coach is on 500k a year

WeeNix
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920
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over 11 years

TV wrote:

Even costa rica coach is on 500k a year

why is that a surprise? they play plenty of games and would be able to afford that

RR
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Bossi Insider
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about 16 years

I've probably missed it but where has this talk of the job paying $125k come from?

Cock
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16K
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almost 15 years

austin10 wrote:

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

That's what worries me.
Cock
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I've probably missed it but where has this talk of the job paying $125k come from?

I may have started that rumour. I kinda said 'ooohhh TABs 500k. As an idea, give that to the AW coach over 4 years, = $125k pa. It was an idea that seems to have become fact when its not.
Cock
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2ndBest wrote:

FDJ is on the panel

He did say football people.
Marquee
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almost 13 years

Jeff Vader wrote:

austin10 wrote:

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

That's what worries me.

Hopefully they have enough sense to read his Wikipedia page which discusses his drink-driving on the way to training, his punch up with journalists, and just the general criticism of his style of play...

I just can't see how someone with that sort of record would be the choice of an organization trying to build some credibility after some public shambles. But of course this is NZF we are talking about. 

Legend
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16K
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Jeff Vader wrote:

austin10 wrote:

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

That's what worries me.

Hopefully they have enough sense to read his Wikipedia page which discusses his drink-driving on the way to training, his punch up with journalists, and just the general criticism of his style of play...

I just can't see how someone with that sort of record would be the choice of an organization trying to build some credibility after some public shambles. But of course this is NZF we are talking about. 

Maradona managed Argentina

Legend
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Feverish wrote:

Maradona managed Argentina

And a fine job he did too....

Marquee
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almost 13 years

Feverish wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

austin10 wrote:

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

That's what worries me.

Hopefully they have enough sense to read his Wikipedia page which discusses his drink-driving on the way to training, his punch up with journalists, and just the general criticism of his style of play...

I just can't see how someone with that sort of record would be the choice of an organization trying to build some credibility after some public shambles. But of course this is NZF we are talking about. 

Maradona managed Argentina

Yeah but he was a national hero for them. That'd be more like if Rufer got the gig. Plus Maradona's time in charge of Argentina was a shambles.
Cock
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16K
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almost 15 years

Jeff Vader wrote:

austin10 wrote:

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

That's what worries me.

Hopefully they have enough sense to read his Wikipedia page which discusses his drink-driving on the way to training, his punch up with journalists, and just the general criticism of his style of play...

I just can't see how someone with that sort of record would be the choice of an organization trying to build some credibility after some public shambles. But of course this is NZF we are talking about. 

Yeah but it just takes one meeting to explain that away and for them to go 'well we have a clean slate policy here' and shit is done.
Marquee
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almost 13 years

Jeff Vader wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

austin10 wrote:

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

That's what worries me.

Hopefully they have enough sense to read his Wikipedia page which discusses his drink-driving on the way to training, his punch up with journalists, and just the general criticism of his style of play...

I just can't see how someone with that sort of record would be the choice of an organization trying to build some credibility after some public shambles. But of course this is NZF we are talking about. 

Yeah but it just takes one meeting to explain that away and for them to go 'well we have a clean slate policy here' and shit is done.

It was a lapse in judgement; those journos looked at me funny; long ball is bound to make a comeback eventually then we'll look ahead of the curve.

Done. 

tradition and history
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9.9K
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about 17 years

Feverish wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

austin10 wrote:

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

That's what worries me.

Hopefully they have enough sense to read his Wikipedia page which discusses his drink-driving on the way to training, his punch up with journalists, and just the general criticism of his style of play...

I just can't see how someone with that sort of record would be the choice of an organization trying to build some credibility after some public shambles. But of course this is NZF we are talking about. 

Maradona managed Argentina

Yeah but he was a national hero for them. That'd be more like if Rufer got the gig. Plus Maradona's time in charge of Argentina was a shambles.

Was also addicted to cocaine for 20 years, shooting an air rifle  at reporters and driving over a photographer's foot.

Fantastic bloke.

First Team Squad
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1.4K
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almost 17 years

Leggy wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

austin10 wrote:

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

That's what worries me.

Hopefully they have enough sense to read his Wikipedia page which discusses his drink-driving on the way to training, his punch up with journalists, and just the general criticism of his style of play...

I just can't see how someone with that sort of record would be the choice of an organization trying to build some credibility after some public shambles. But of course this is NZF we are talking about. 

Maradona managed Argentina

Yeah but he was a national hero for them. That'd be more like if Rufer got the gig. Plus Maradona's time in charge of Argentina was a shambles.

Was also addicted to cocaine for 20 years, shooting an air rifle  at reporters and driving over a photographer's foot.

Fantastic bloke.

Makes Farina look like a pussycat.

Starting XI
37
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2.1K
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over 17 years

Farina has taken a Director of Football role at the Fijian Football Association. Whether that means he could take the role as All Whites coach on a part time basis, I do not know. Would seem like a complete conflict of interest for me.

Here's to hoping...

First Team Squad
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almost 17 years

Just had another read of his Wiki page. Why take the risk?

Blue Cod
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760
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over 14 years

james dean wrote:

austin10 wrote:

huge wrote:

Makes sense. I guess he/his agent is probably using the opportunity to raise his profile in the UK by being 'in-demand' in the hope of getting a job offer later when he's finished with his Bahrain stint.

This

Hudson comes across as super ambitious. Why would he turn down  a chance to coach Bahrain in a fairly major tournament next January??( Asian Cup). If he does well there he will put him self in the shop window for bigger and better jobs.However If he took the AW job he would get the occasional friendly match then over the next two years he would disappear into the wilderness of Honiara, Noumea etc with the Oceania WC playoffs. The carrot would be Confederation Cup in 2017 but you would hardly imagine that would be a big enough incentive to spend the next two or three years in a football backwater on low pay and poorly resourced. 

If it is down to Ramon, Farina or some old UK hack then please please let it be Ramon. He could get a two year appointment and they could reassess it when they see how he has done after the Oceania qualifiers. I could accept Ramon....but Farina..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

It does beg the question why the chief executive is picking the head coach.  Football decisions should be made by football people

Correct, which does beg the question, err, why is a non-football person the CEO of NZF in the first place?

Marquee
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5.7K
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about 12 years

Correct, which does beg the question, err, why is a non-football person the CEO of NZF in the first place?

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Because being a footballer does not automatically qualify someone to run a multi million dollar enterprise. Why not give John Terry a call, he's a good footballer and seems like a top bloke also!!

I would rather have a guy who knows jack shit about football, but is a proven CEO steering NZF than someone with very little business sense potentially steering us in to financial oblivion.

Let those around him with experience of NZ football help inform him and guide him. If he has any real ability as a leader, he'll listen to those in the know and go from there.

NZF is a business and should be run as such.

Must try harder
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1.5K
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about 17 years

 "Let those around him with experience of NZ football help inform him and guide him"

O God , not more of this.....

Must try harder
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about 17 years

FU BLU wrote:

 "Let those around him with experience of NZ football help inform him and guide him"

O God , not more of this.....

give Mr Herbert something to do till the Addidas checque clears....

Cock
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16K
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almost 15 years

How did it work having FVH as the over lord. He was a WC goal keeper you know.....

Cock
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16K
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almost 15 years

DKP22 wrote:

Farina has taken a Director of Football role at the Fijian Football Association. Whether that means he could take the role as All Whites coach on a part time basis, I do not know. Would seem like a complete conflict of interest for me.

Here's to hoping...

I really really hope this is true. It then comes down to Ramon and Hudson. You would think the job is Ramons then...
Must try harder
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about 17 years

Article in Herald ...Ramon out

Cock
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16K
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almost 15 years

So while Hudson appeals as being an attractive alternative to the names out there, the reality is two of the three names are people that we as fans probably don't want to see.

Unless there is a dark horse...

Legend
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16K
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over 17 years

FU BLU wrote:

Article in Herald ...Ramon out

link?

Cock
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16K
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almost 15 years

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10270431/Three-still-in-the-mix-for-All-Whites-coaching-job

Starting XI
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2.3K
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about 12 years

Would NZF be open to this Bahrainy chap starting after the Asian Cup in January? Just a thought.

Starting XI
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3.2K
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almost 12 years

Leggy wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

austin10 wrote:

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

That's what worries me.

Hopefully they have enough sense to read his Wikipedia page which discusses his drink-driving on the way to training, his punch up with journalists, and just the general criticism of his style of play...

I just can't see how someone with that sort of record would be the choice of an organization trying to build some credibility after some public shambles. But of course this is NZF we are talking about. 

Maradona managed Argentina

Yeah but he was a national hero for them. That'd be more like if Rufer got the gig. Plus Maradona's time in charge of Argentina was a shambles.

Was also addicted to cocaine for 20 years, shooting an air rifle  at reporters and driving over a photographer's foot.

Fantastic bloke.

...never paid tax in Italy but is at the same time big fan of Fidel Castro...is the only footballer I remember that get caught doping.

Marquee
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6.5K
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over 11 years

It's going to be Fallon. Dark horse. Old nag.

Marquee
970
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6.5K
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over 11 years

number8 wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

austin10 wrote:

Trouble is two of the selection panel(Martin and the NZ sports guy) are new on the local football scene. Farina's CV probably looks great. Coached Australia, assistant at a WC, coached in Asia and the Pacific.....knows the A-League and Asian scene. But they probably don't know what a c**t he is.

That's what worries me.

Hopefully they have enough sense to read his Wikipedia page which discusses his drink-driving on the way to training, his punch up with journalists, and just the general criticism of his style of play...

I just can't see how someone with that sort of record would be the choice of an organization trying to build some credibility after some public shambles. But of course this is NZF we are talking about. 

Maradona managed Argentina

Yeah but he was a national hero for them. That'd be more like if Rufer got the gig. Plus Maradona's time in charge of Argentina was a shambles.

Was also addicted to cocaine for 20 years, shooting an air rifle  at reporters and driving over a photographer's foot.

Fantastic bloke.

...never paid tax in Italy but is at the same time big fan of Fidel Castro...is the only footballer I remember that get caught doping.

Troy Hearfield.

Cock
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16K
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almost 15 years

Fitzy wrote:

Would NZF be open to this Bahrainy chap starting after the Asian Cup in January? Just a thought.

You would wonder. It gets around the issue of needing a release and what competition have the AWs got between now and Jan other than a couple of friendlies...
Marquee
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9.6K
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almost 14 years

With career scapegoat Lochead and his understudy Lia impressing when released from the Ricki Herbert shackles, it just goes to show how much a coach can not only influence a team but a players potential. 

This is a critical appointment and one that NZF are bound to get wrong, I guess if there are any silver linings you would hope that Ramon or Emblem would be available on short notice when everything goes pear shaped.

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