The next All Whites coach

 We know something then.

He's a better dancer than Nixie. 

how much money can they offer exactly?

I would like someone to actually back it up with facts not pictures 

so...

assuming bahrain have a massive budget

they can pull out the big bucks to keep him if he's any good

and if he's not any good

we will land him!

I don't actually have any idea how much money the Bahrain FA have at their disposal. I am assuming it is more than us because a) we have bugger all b) Bahrain is an oil rich country exporting over $US20 Billion a year and they are mad on football.

I just took it for granted they have more to spend on their coach. Of course money isn't everything. I'm not saying we won't get him, lifestyle shouldn't be discounted. The point wasn't that we won't get him, just that it isn't a formality.

If money was no object then why didn't they hire Rednapp himself (he's a whre so he'd do it) and not a failed Conference manager? Their national stadium was a piece of crap when I went there for the playoff too.

This is a public comment from someone on an article about him. 

"He took a team that finished 9th in the Conference the previous season, and proceeded to win only 1 game out of the first 12 games at the start of the next season. He was sacked with them languishing in 23rd position.

How he even deserves a mention on these pages is beyond me. Justin Edinburgh was able to take that team, keep them safe that season, get promoted to the football league a year later, and currently just outside the League 2 playoffs yet receives a fraction of the credit this guy does because he is mates with Redknapp"

The other options are Farina and van Egmond.  Anything is better, in fact I'd rather Smithy than those two.

Also working in that heat would not be much fun. Of course it is not easy to adjust living in a place that is culturally and religiously  poles apart from your normal lifestyle.

LOL.  Not that hot and most things similar, except the weather is better.

Remember for the playoff Bahrain flew their team over in a private jet.

NZ doesn't even send all our players business class.

Hudson could just be using this as a wage levering device with his current employer.

Oh yes they do. Including internal European flights. And we wonder where all the money goes

Can't quite believe the wraps on this guy. It all seems to stem from the fact that Harry, whom has the rep as a wheeler dealer has called him a baby Jose. Appears a good looking guy like Jose, but can't see anything else in his cv which draws a comparison. It's just lucky that Ricki, didn't spend a few weeks with Harry gettin his badges, or some club or nation may have a baby Alex on their hands.

I can see why Bahrain are angry.....they have a very important tournament in January....the Asian Cup. They have spent a lot of time and money on developing the team. They have a big pretournament buildup planned. They would not want to lose their coach so close to a these matches. It would be very difficult for them to get another coach bedded in before that tournament.

I reckon they won't budge. There will be some compromise worked out so Hudson can coach them at Asia Cup and then come to NZ afterwards. Emblen could coach the Uzbeckistan game in September. There is nothing else scheduled for the AW's until after January.

Hudson obviously wants out. He has resigned only six months away from coaching a national team at a fairly major tournament. That would have been quite an achievement for such a young coach. We can speculate why....it won't be money reasons but perhaps political. 

Its all starting to look a little messy. LOL didn't someone say NZF could'nt fuck this up? 

He can resign though right?  If he quits, he quits

"The BFA issued a statement yesterday revealing it had received a letter from Hudson in which he requested an "amendment" to his contract and confirmed he had received an offer to coach New Zealand."

Sounds to me that he hasnt resigned at all.

Amendment could have been to finish early.

optimistic

but money talks lads

I don't actually quite understand this

"I resign"

"No you can't"

"Ok. Well I wont be here tomorrow"

"But we'll pay you more" 

"But I wont be here"

Just grab your shit, up and leave!

What more can we do to make Bahraini football hate is even more?

I kinda agree with HN on the podcast. If its not Hudson, then the alternatives are not appealing.

Sounds like that's what it was. But that's not really resigning. Why am i not surprised NZF are involved in yet another conundrum ...

I think we can surmise Hudson would be already earning much more than NZF would pay - plus successfully coaching a team in the AFC and the Asian Cup is a lot more prestigious than the All Whites playing a couple of low key friendlies in the next 14 months before competing to be champion of the Pacific Islands.

You would only walk out on such a coaching gig due to unhappiness with your employers or the local football and political environment.

Hudson would have plenty of reason to be unhappy with his employers and the political situation - the FA would be controlled by the corrupt and oppressive ruling family over there. There continue to be plenty of human rights violations in Bahrain, including against sportsmen. 

Here are the search results for "Amnesty International Bahrain": up there with the worst in the Middle East outside of Syria:

https://www.google.co.nz/webhp?sourceid=chrome-ins...

In fact, some of the Bahrain players the All Whites faced in 2009 were jailed and tortured by the regime in the following few years after they were seen as implicated in protests against the regime. One of the national team had to leave the country and ended up in the A-League.

Arrests have continued since then until now - Anthony Hudson may now have finally realised what is going on and how he is being used by a corrupt regime (the Sunni ruling family maintain an oppressive rule over the Shi'ite majority).

Several footballers and other athletes remain in jail and more were jailed in more recent months.

Some players NZ played in 2009 remain banned from ever playing for Bahrain - surely FIFA should expel Bahrain for government interference in its football? FIFA has done this before.

Three national youth team players have been arrested and one jailed for five years (Hudson was previously Bahrain u-23 coach).

He must know about all this.

Report in the Turkish (free uncensored) media from January this year:

" [Bahrain] Football officials and critics of the government say football and other sports suffer from a lack of planning as a result of politicization. “There are no sports since the uprising. Matches serve as PR to show Bahrain is back to normal,” Mr. Hayyat said. “We have lost qualified managers. As a result, football suffers,” added a football official...."

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/bahrain-detains-f...

BAHRAIN DETAINS FOOTBALL TEAM AND SCORES OF PLAYERS AND ATHLETES

January 6 2014

[Edited by me - highlights of longer article]

...In one of the latest rounds of detentions, authorities lifted three football and two handball players of al-Ittifaq Maqaba, a sports club in Diraz, a hot spot of continued protest against the government, the sources said. They said the athletes – football players Bahr Mohammed Jawad, Hassan Abdullah Marhoum, Qassem Habib Abdullah and handball players Ahmed Abdel Jalil and Ibrahim Juma’a – had been arrested in a Dec. 5, 3 am raid on Diraz, one of the frequent sweeps of the area. They said the athletes were among an estimated ten people taken away by security forces. The athletes were suspected of participating in an illegal gathering, the activists and journalists said.

...The five detained athletes join an estimated 50 sports people being held in prison since the 2011 uprising. Their detentions are in addition to 150 athletes and sports officials, including three national football team players, who were arrested or fired from their jobs during the crackdown on the revolt. Most of those were quickly released and reinstated. Two of three national team players, who were at the time publicly denounced on television as spies, traitors and asserted that they had been tortured in prison, play for local clubs but were not allowed to rejoin the national squad.

Among those detained since is the whole squad of the al-Ekar Youth Center in the village of al-Ekar. The 17-member team was detained in October 2012 in a security operation following a bombing in which a police officer was killed. Opposition groups said the arrests had been arbitrary.

Other detained athletes include al-Ahli and national football youth team players Ahmed Hassan Abdul Wahab, Younis Hader and Jaffar al-Asfoor, national youth handball team player Ali Almolani, beach volleyball midfielder Ridha Abdul Hussain, and Bahrain gymnastics champion Hussein Abdul Ghani.

Similar thing happened with Iran

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/23/iran-football-protest-ban

FIFA pressed Iran, Iran denied it and said they had 'retired', a couple of the 7 or so banned did come back and play a couple of games, but many believe this was a move by Iran to weasel their way out of a FIFA sanctioned ban. FIFA seem pretty lazy on such matters, happy to jump on the #freepalestine band wagon and tell Israel they'll be banned for their recent fighting in Gaza, but these Bahrain players were banned a long time ago - and nothing. Adnan actually spent time in prison before coming to the A-League

Can the Bahrain FA stop him taking up another position until the completion of his contract - even if he has 'resigned'

I thought the europeans were business class but the kiwis were not.

Bahrain needs a new coach.Looking good for us then

It is pleasing to see that at least one person in this forum actually does a bit of research. Thanks Big Pete

It's "Goodbye, Asian Football Confederation!" for NZ for some years now as a result of snatching Bahrain's coach though.

Unfortunately, the President of the Bahrain FA is also President of AFC (since May last year) and on FIFA's Executive Committee.

Salman bin Ibrahim Al-Khalifa is the most powerful man in Asian football, a relative of the King of Bahrain, King Hamad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Bin_Ibrahim_Al...

And accused of involvement in human rights violations:

http://www.insideworldfootball.com/world-football/...

http://www.insideworldfootball.com/world-football/...

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-a...

"The involvement of the Bahraini Sheikh Salman bin Ibrahim al-Khalifa as a leading figure in Fifa’s committee that will determine whether the 2022 World Cup finals should be moved from its traditional summer date is a controversial one given previous allegations made against him over human rights issues.

Three Bahraini human rights organisations have written to Fifa asking for Salman’s nomination as head of the Asian Football Confederation to be overturned, claiming he was involved in the arrest and torture of Bahraini players following the pro-democracy demonstrations in the country two years ago.

The Bahrain Youth Society for Human Rights wrote to Sepp Blatter earlier this year, saying that Salman “is involved in human rights violations with the assistance of his office and consultants against players, administrators, referees and clubs who participated in the democracy protests in February 2011. We would like to bring to your kind attention the most important acts of revenge carried out by Sheikh Salman bin Ibrahim al-Khalifa against groups that are affiliated with football.”

http://adhrb.org/2013/04/adhrb-asks-fifa-to-invest...

"Sheikh Nasser bin Hamad al-Khalifa, a member of the royal family, was put in charge of a committee formed to arrest, detain, and punish members of the sporting community who participated in protests.

As a member of the committee, Sheikh Salman al-Khalifa, in his capacity as president of the Bahrain Football Association, used photographs to identify Bahraini football players who participated in protests, leading to their arrest, detention, abuse, torture, and public humiliation."

I'm happy for NZ to remain in Oceania, much more of a chance of making it to World Cup finals in all age groups.

I think Hudson's decision is probably driven much more by the horrible political/sectarian conflict engulfing the Middle East than money. I mean, NZ offers internationals, the chance to oversee age group World Cup finals participants and political and economic stability (if you leave out that fat fraud Dotcom). And we drive on the left side of the road and wave a union jack. I mean, what could a Brit ask for?

Bahrain will be in a cruel and senseless sectarian civil war within a couple of years according to one report I read. It's already bubbling up and will be fuelled by the collapse of Iraq and the widening sectarian divide across the region. I'd get out of there as soon as I can Tony.

And our weak tea is a good as any in the UK.

will be interesting to see if he dies both the men and Olympic teams. That's what I'd do on balance I'd say

Dies?