All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams

Tony Smith's coverage...

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tony Smith's coverage...
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/sport/columnists/3793342/Here-come-the-not-so-All-Whites
 
He tries hard but I thought this, published in the DomPost today, was odd...  He mentioned the haka and then threw in "Regrettably, Fifa, world football's governing body, does not encourage expressions of national culture before World Cup matches. That is one of the few areas where rugby has it over the world's most popular game. "
 
I'd love to hear him justify that last sentence...
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What needs justifying? He likes how rugby encourages cultural expressions before a game, where FIFA doesn't. He also says it's one of the FEW areas where he prefers rugby's approach. Hardly worth getting in a fuss over.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
dairyflat gets in a fuss over everything though.

Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'd still love to hear him try to justify that last sentence...
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The whole article is also about the way the All Whites are now more representative of the cultural makeup of NZ

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 
I used to enjoy the traditional cultural display of caber tossing by Scots fans after England- Scotland games when they used to rip up the goalposts at Wembley and toss them around. FIFA were wise to ban such displays before games, as otherwise there would have been no goalposts.
However, it was a shame that regular England- Scotland games themselves eventually became banned...

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bopman wrote:
The whole article is also about the way the All Whites are now more representative of the cultural makeup of NZ

What a crock of sh*t though. Theres always been Maori representing NZ in football, this time theres only one or two more than usual. Big deal. Wheres the Asians or Islanders? Article = Fail.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
"There's always been Maori representing NZ in football"
Very few in fact until the last decade. I think the part-Maori Wynton Rufer was the only one in the '82 team. Before then- virtually zilch. A couple in total in the 80's as a whole- Richard Mulligan (Christchurch United and Gisborne City)  being one. Vaughan Coveny was one of the few in the 90's, along with Harry Ngata. There are now four with Maori ancestry, which is the greatest number ever...I agree with you though that the lack of Pacifika and Asian players means the AWs are not truely reflective of NZ society yet.
Though, there have been a few Asian and Pacific island All Whites over the years, starting with a Chinese NZer in the 1950s. Wellington goalie Sacha Nathu (of Indian descent) was a prominant national league player and won a few All Whites caps in the late 70s. Sanjay Singh was another a few years ago. Most of our handful of Asian All Whites have been of Indian descent.
A similar handful of Polynesians starting with Colin Tuaa in 1983.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lets leave the Haka for before oval ball games. Rugby has nothing else to get excited about, during a game the fans are all naff or asleep.   
League fans do get involved with drums but still not like a night at a Nix game.
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