Vs Mexico 1st Leg Thurs 14th 9:30am SS2

Bring Back Ryan :)

Oh well, at least we've got several excuses now

This is a CODE RED forum angst alert.

To avoid a full-scale forum angst implosion everybody please watch this video now:

Professional advice is that singing along with the chorus will achieve optimal levels of wishful thinking and blind faith.

#dontstopbelievin

Fitzgerald dammit!!!!

Fitzgerald.....you know the guy in the top league in the entire Asian region....yes that guy.....surely surely surely they will call him up.....I cry inside.

Why dont people like this fitzgerald guy?

Will make the victory all the more miraculous!
Imagine the night in Wellington after we qualify!

I like Fitzgerald, I have no idea why his success hasn't been celebrated like other New Zealand players making their way in top leagues......and why has Ricki always been so cold on Daniel?? He isn't rubbish and he is as much a kiwi as durante....

Why doesn't New Zealand football like this fitzgerald guy?

there, much better. 

while on the rant - also bemused by training in LA and flying into high altitude at the azteca ON THE DAY.....I am no sports scientist but wouldn't a wee bit of aclimatisation be worthwhile before climbing everest with-out oxygen?

This is Ricki Herberts perfect storm.

"Well we would have won it but we will never know for the loss of Winston Reid"

That's all the regular lay person will know. They wont see the bullshit build up, the Christie selection. All they see is "We were missing our top All White from the EPL"

Also Bob the Rasta prophet has some advice:

"Rise up this mornin',
Smile with the risin' sun,
Three little birds
Each by my doorstep
Singin' sweet songs
Of melodies pure and true,
Sayin', ("This is my message to you-ou-ou: ")

Singin': "Don't worry 'bout a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right."
Singin': "Don't worry (don't worry) 'bout a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right! "

Original music video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGYAAsHT4QE

Lyrics: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bobmarley/threelittlebirds.html

Marches off into sunset as " successful national coach "

ON plus side .....J Christie now AW Captain ....

newsflash : New Zealand prepared to admit that quality national coach costs money and decides to pay........just like every other country on earth does - even with the 2010 windfall there has never ever been the suggestion that a Gus Hiddink or even a Ernie Merrick might be given this full-time job and give the national team the boost it deserves.....

NZ needs to bring a replacement,  maybe reid can be back for leg 2, lets see and wait, a sore ankle could work out,, everything is really weird

I saw on stuff that a fax had been sent to FIFA questioning the eligibility of a certain VINCENT LIA to step into the squad. Will find link and post

That's a bit OTT. You have to remember, up until mid 2012, Ricki has done a good job for 7 years. The reality is, his ideas are stale and this group probably don't respond to the same voice anymore as happens just like at the Phoenix. He (and Ryan) got us to a WC. Yes he has a flaws but like John Adshead (and his Knights fuck up) it does not make him a poor coach. It just means he is dated. He did well in his time but his time is now pretty much over (or he needs a very fresh environment to start again)

Whats a 'Hiddink' type coach going to do? Spend months researching and unearthing new talent and guys coming through? Spend time with them? Fuck off he would. He will take the team a week out from any game, demand a fortune, have his entourage run the show then stuff off. Ricki might not be perfect but he at least knows the NZ landscape. Ernie has learned the NZ landscape and found the talent by being here. Hiddink will not do that. Hiddinks way of doing things, Jason Hicks would not get a leg up, Justin Gulley and Hamish Watson would not show what they are capable of, Alex Rufer would not have doors opened for him. So you would see the same players rolled out each time until someone in the national body (likely FDJ) says 'we think you should look at this player' and then he will get taken into a camp. The national coaching job is not a fulltime job, nor paying and never will be. So you have to find a coach that is prepared to work part time for part time wages and thus, will never invest that time.

Also I'd like to add, no coach worth his salt that you speak of would take the job and the shambolic organisation of fixtures. Do you think a Hiddink type coach would tolerate the lead in we have to tournaments (OFC Nations) or that bullshit of a tour that just happened through America or give two flying fucks what Phoenix players need to be where? We'd get more exposed for being the mickey mouse organisation we already are. Durante would not have played and he would have told the national body to sort it before he picked him (which means it would not have been)

Neil Emblen coming through seems to be achieving good things (and Ryan said the Olympic campaign was excellent under him) so there are resources there that do not bankrupt us. That aside, the national side will not be seen of 2 years anyway because of costs so its pointless.

nz will play  4-4-1-1  now i see that   like  usa and jamaica did

he must bring one extra defender just because,  boxall or fitzgerald at least

might book myself in for a psych assessment if I get any more confident though...

BREAKING NEWS

"In the wake of Reid's injury, All White's coach Ricki Herbert, has called up Steven Old to step into the back line."

www.stuff.co.nz/sports/football/allwhites/087485

Ernie Merrick coached Hong Kong, Frank Farina (not saying he is that fantastic) coached PNG and there is a long list of crappy small football nations with half decent coaches (better than Herbert). Yes it comes down to money but you need to spend a little to get a decent coach of the quality to get us into the confederations cup and the world cup where the prize money to qualify for these tournaments well outweighs the cost.

Ricki has done a good job for 7 years??? Really??? because since the last world cup I would think he has done a very poor job. Why does everyone seem to forget the disaster of the Oceania Cup. I don't care what excuses they had for that tournament. We were garbage and are still playing terribly. Ricki has not bought anything new to the table since the last world cup.

Its also pretty obvious that the last world cup came done to Ryan Nelsen not Ricki Herbert. Is anyone aware that while Herbert was coaching the Phoenix it wasnt uncommon for him to leave selection and tactics down to the experienced players in the team? And thats a fact.

Herbert has been carried by his experienced players for a number of years. Now he hasn't got the likes of Elliott, Brown and Nelsen to carry his ass he has become exposed and clueless.

Its going to take a miracle for us to qualify for the world cup and if we do it will not have anything to do with Herbert.

Now if Herbert has done such a good job with the Phoenix and the All Whites I am sure he will have lots of clubs chasing him. My prediction. He will never coach another professional team again.

If Daniel Larusso can train for, and win, the All-Valley Karate Championship in just 2 months then we can definitely beat Mexico.

The irony in this analogy is that the blonde white kid is Mexico and the Hispanic kid is New Zealand.

#dontstopbelievin

The kid has a dodgy foot - must be Winston Reid

ricki herbert really looks like Will Farrell, both are football-mad people, but dont know who is funnier

Flying V formation FTW! Ducks stick together!

edit: double post

Ditto Jurgen Klopp and Declan Edge.