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Posted January 06, 2023 01:30 · last edited January 06, 2023 01:36

Ted Striker
coochiee
Showtime Nixie
Its obviously not Des - the initial delay in announcing the coach was subject to his availability no doubt about it. Talay will be last cab off the rank - simply hasn't done enough at club level. Bazeley potentially as he's a NZF pipeline coach - players know him and he's a nice guy, he's not going to upset anyone - safe bet for NZF who have been told to make everyone happy by a report. Interesting to know who the other two are - I'm guessing offshore who are in club roles and do not want their names out in public - again with the delayed announcing it could be around these negotiations. If it was Talay or Bazeley they would announce it in the next few days. 

Your comments on Bazeley I actually agree with. Think that Mckinnon report is going to have a large influence in who they appoint, especially now that Des has been ruled out.

Be interesting if Emblen (currently an assistant coach at Colorado Rapids?) has thrown his hand in. Are him & Bazeley mates?

People are going on about Bazeley being a route one, old school English type gaffer, but his most recent team the U19s didn't play like that, and neither did Hay's AWs. Coaches evolve, plus match tactics to what players they have. Well the good ones do.

Blind Freddie can see that the new AWs coach, will have in their squad the best group of technically gifted players in the team's history.

Dunno what you are basing your opinion on the U19's playing attractive football. They played incredibly disjointed and missed easy opportunities in every game look at this miss of an open goal and the quality of the opposition?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfpVCRt0KgU
Why hire a national coach based on their record in Oceania and not not at the Club World Cup? Also do you remember Beazley coaching the U17 team at home age group world cup? He and Hay had 3 years working with the same group of players in the national league for the world cup tournament at home and all they could come up when the tournament arrived was 10 men behind the ball. Anyone but Beazley. If Hay took NZ back to the 90s and had no idea how to structure an offense the Beazley will take us right back to the 70s.

Oh and I can't be arsed fact checking your comments indepth. But you haven't even bothered to spell Bazeley's name correctly. Well done on Hay

Though I know NZ hasn't hosted a home U17 WC since 1999, when I doubt either Bazeley or Hay were in charge. Bazeley had the U17s from 2011-2013 & U20s from 2013-2017 (plus now). I guess you are referring to the U20 home WC in 2015, but hey just make some World Cups up if that best fits your narrative.

Also to pick one small clip from that U19 tourney is just stupid. I could collect a whole heap of short clips from the same tourney of nicely constructed goals.

At the end of the day how Bazeley or anyone was coaching 5 years ago ain't that important. Coaches learn & evolve as they go along. It's what they are doing now that is the crux. Some of those early age group teams Bazeley coached, would have had more long forgotten names, than players who have gone on to big things. 

That's not to say he should be the AWs coach, but an acknowledgement that with the rise of the Nix & Ole Academies, plus other pathways there are better more technical young players coming out of NZ now, than ever before. So there is a newish rising expectation that when these kids play for the various national teams through the ranks, that solely route one ain't on the agenda.


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Unknown editor edited January 06, 2023 01:36
Ted Striker
coochiee
Showtime Nixie
Its obviously not Des - the initial delay in announcing the coach was subject to his availability no doubt about it. Talay will be last cab off the rank - simply hasn't done enough at club level. Bazeley potentially as he's a NZF pipeline coach - players know him and he's a nice guy, he's not going to upset anyone - safe bet for NZF who have been told to make everyone happy by a report. Interesting to know who the other two are - I'm guessing offshore who are in club roles and do not want their names out in public - again with the delayed announcing it could be around these negotiations. If it was Talay or Bazeley they would announce it in the next few days. 

Your comments on Bazeley I actually agree with. Think that Mckinnon report is going to have a large influence in who they appoint, especially now that Des has been ruled out.

Be interesting if Emblen (currently an assistant coach at Colorado Rapids?) has thrown his hand in. Are him & Bazeley mates?

People are going on about Bazeley being a route one, old school English type gaffer, but his most recent team the U19s didn't play like that, and neither did Hay's AWs. Coaches evolve, plus match tactics to what players they have. Well the good ones do.

Blind Freddie can see that the new AWs coach, will have in their squad the best group of technically gifted players in the team's history.

Dunno what you are basing your opinion on the U19's playing attractive football. They played incredibly disjointed and missed easy opportunities in every game look at this miss of an open goal and the quality of the opposition?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfpVCRt0KgU
Why hire a national coach based on their record in Oceania and not not at the Club World Cup? Also do you remember Beazley coaching the U17 team at home age group world cup? He and Hay had 3 years working with the same group of players in the national league for the world cup tournament at home and all they could come up when the tournament arrived was 10 men behind the ball. Anyone but Beazley. If Hay took NZ back to the 90s and had no idea how to structure an offense the Beazley will take us right back to the 70s.

Oh and I can't be arsed fact checking your comments indepth. But you haven't even bothered to spell Bazeley's name correctly. Well done on Hay

Though I know NZ hasn't hosted a home U17 WC since 1999, when I doubt either Bazeley or Hay were in charge. Bazeley had the U17s from 2011-2013 & U20s from 2013-2017 (plus now). I guess you are referring to the U20 home WC in 2015, but hey just make some World Cups up if that best fits your narrative.

Also to pick one small clip from that U19 tourney is just stupid. I could collect a whole heap of short clips from the same tourney of nicely constructed goals.

At the end of the day how Bazeley or anyone was coaching 5 years ago ain't that important. Coaches learn & evolve as they go along. It's what they are doing now that is the crux. Some of those early age group teams Bazeley coached, would have had more long forgotten names, than players who have gone on to big things. 

That's not to say he should be the AWs coach, but an acknowledgement that with the rise of the Nix & Ole Academies, plus other pathways there are better more technical young players coming out of NZ now, than ever before. So there is a newish rising expectation that when these kids play for the various national teams through the ranks, hoofball ain't on the agenda.


Unknown editor edited January 06, 2023 01:35
Ted Striker
coochiee
Showtime Nixie
Its obviously not Des - the initial delay in announcing the coach was subject to his availability no doubt about it. Talay will be last cab off the rank - simply hasn't done enough at club level. Bazeley potentially as he's a NZF pipeline coach - players know him and he's a nice guy, he's not going to upset anyone - safe bet for NZF who have been told to make everyone happy by a report. Interesting to know who the other two are - I'm guessing offshore who are in club roles and do not want their names out in public - again with the delayed announcing it could be around these negotiations. If it was Talay or Bazeley they would announce it in the next few days. 

Your comments on Bazeley I actually agree with. Think that Mckinnon report is going to have a large influence in who they appoint, especially now that Des has been ruled out.

Be interesting if Emblen (currently an assistant coach at Colorado Rapids?) has thrown his hand in. Are him & Bazeley mates?

People are going on about Bazeley being a route one, old school English type gaffer, but his most recent team the U19s didn't play like that, and neither did Hay's AWs. Coaches evolve, plus match tactics to what players they have. Well the good ones do.

Blind Freddie can see that the new AWs coach, will have in their squad the best group of technically gifted players in the team's history.

Dunno what you are basing your opinion on the U19's playing attractive football. They played incredibly disjointed and missed easy opportunities in every game look at this miss of an open goal and the quality of the opposition?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfpVCRt0KgU
Why hire a national coach based on their record in Oceania and not not at the Club World Cup? Also do you remember Beazley coaching the U17 team at home age group world cup? He and Hay had 3 years working with the same group of players in the national league for the world cup tournament at home and all they could come up when the tournament arrived was 10 men behind the ball. Anyone but Beazley. If Hay took NZ back to the 90s and had no idea how to structure an offense the Beazley will take us right back to the 70s.

Oh and I can't be arsed fact checking your comments indepth. But you haven't even bothered to spell Bazeley's name correctly. Well done on Hay

Though I know NZ hasn't hosted a home U17 WC since 1999, when I doubt either Bazeley or Hay were in charge. Bazeley had the U17s from 2011-2013 & U20s from 2013-2017 (plus now). I guess you are referring to the U20 home WC in 2015, but hey just make some World Cups up if that best fits your narrative.

Also to pick one small clip from that U19 tourney is just stupid. I could collect a whole heap of short clips from the same tourney of nicely constructed goals.

At the end of the day how Bazeley or anyone was coaching 5 years ago ain't that important. Coaches learn & evolve as they go along. It's what they are doing now that is the crux. Some of those early age group teams Bazeley coached, would have had more long forgotten names, than players who have gone on to big things. 

That's not to say he should be the AWs coach, but an acknowledgement that with the rise of the Nix & Ole Academies, plus other pathways there are better more technical young players coming out of NZ now, than ever before.

Unknown editor edited January 06, 2023 01:33
Ted Striker
coochiee
Showtime Nixie
Its obviously not Des - the initial delay in announcing the coach was subject to his availability no doubt about it. Talay will be last cab off the rank - simply hasn't done enough at club level. Bazeley potentially as he's a NZF pipeline coach - players know him and he's a nice guy, he's not going to upset anyone - safe bet for NZF who have been told to make everyone happy by a report. Interesting to know who the other two are - I'm guessing offshore who are in club roles and do not want their names out in public - again with the delayed announcing it could be around these negotiations. If it was Talay or Bazeley they would announce it in the next few days. 

Your comments on Bazeley I actually agree with. Think that Mckinnon report is going to have a large influence in who they appoint, especially now that Des has been ruled out.

Be interesting if Emblen (currently an assistant coach at Colorado Rapids?) has thrown his hand in. Are him & Bazeley mates?

People are going on about Bazeley being a route one, old school English type gaffer, but his most recent team the U19s didn't play like that, and neither did Hay's AWs. Coaches evolve, plus match tactics to what players they have. Well the good ones do.

Blind Freddie can see that the new AWs coach, will have in their squad the best group of technically gifted players in the team's history.

Dunno what you are basing your opinion on the U19's playing attractive football. They played incredibly disjointed and missed easy opportunities in every game look at this miss of an open goal and the quality of the opposition?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfpVCRt0KgU
Why hire a national coach based on their record in Oceania and not not at the Club World Cup? Also do you remember Beazley coaching the U17 team at home age group world cup? He and Hay had 3 years working with the same group of players in the national league for the world cup tournament at home and all they could come up when the tournament arrived was 10 men behind the ball. Anyone but Beazley. If Hay took NZ back to the 90s and had no idea how to structure an offense the Beazley will take us right back to the 70s.

Oh and I can't be arsed fact checking your comments indepth. But you haven't even bothered to spell Bazeley's name correctly. Well done on Hay

Though I know NZ hasn't hosted a home U17 WC since 1999, when I doubt either Bazeley or Hay were in charge. Bazeley had the U17s from 2011-2013 & U20s from 2013-2017 (plus now)

Also to pick one small clip from that U19 tourney is just stupid. I could collect a whole heap of short clips from the same tourney of nicely constructed goals.

At the end of the day how Bazeley or anyone was coaching 5 years ago ain't that important. Coaches learn & evolve as they go along. It's what they are doing now that is the crux. Some of those early age group teams Bazeley coached, would have had more long forgotten names, than players who have gone on to big things. 

That's not to say he should be the AWs coach, but an acknowledgement that with the rise of the Nix & Ole Academies, plus other pathways there are better more technical young players coming out of NZ now, than ever before.