Who would you most like to see us play?
I've always liked the Netherlands, and would love to see a NED - NZ match. Obviously with seeding we'll have one top-10 type team, likely to be Germany, which would be...tough.
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Dream draw for me:
England/Brazil/Australia
A little bit of everything
England/Brazil/Australia
A little bit of everything
Salmon swim upstream
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England Australia South Africa for me, but I understand that will be impssible, maybe the Yanks or the Germans
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Anyone know how the 'pots' are looking, as in who are the top seeds etc?
Australia would be quality, as would England.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Scotland..
Oh wait 
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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Would Love a trinations pool - SA as top seeds, Aussie and us! maybe Greece thrown in as well just for Leo.
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England Australia South Africa please!
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England Australia south africa would be amazing. Id go over.
Allegedly
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Scotland..
Oh wait
Burley MUST go...3-0 off Wales yesterday? Dear oh dear.
So are Kiwis not fans of South Africans then? Not sure I would've picked that rivalry, although I suppose there is the rugby angle...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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England Aussie Brazil.
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Scotland..
Oh wait
Burley MUST go...3-0 off Wales yesterday? Dear oh dear.
So are Kiwis not fans of South Africans then? Not sure I would've picked that rivalry, although I suppose there is the rugby angle...
Allegedly
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How the seefing worked in 2006:
The eight seeded teams for the 2006 tournament were announced on 6 December 2005. The seeds comprised Pot A in the draw. Pot B contained the unseeded qualifiers from South America, Africa and Oceania; Pot C contained eight of the nine remaining European teams, excluding Serbia and Montenegro. Pot D contained unseeded teams from the CONCACAF region and Asia. A special pot contained Serbia and Montenegro: this was done to ensure that no group contained three European teams. In the special pot, Serbia and Montenegro was drawn first, then their group was drawn from the three seeded non-European nations, Argentina, Brazil, and Mexico.
I'm thinking South Africa could be a seeded team because they are the hosts (similar to what happened in EURO 2008) .
If FIFA don't change things around drastically we could end with with a group like : NZ RSA, Slovakia and Honduras. Unlikley but that would be sweet
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I don't care who we play. Be nice to have one of the 'weaker' asian or south american sides...winning one game in the group stages is KEY. cause if you win and perhaps snatch a draw you have a chance of qualifying, which would be beyond this word.
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I'd like one big team, which I'm sure we'll see anyway but someone like England or Italy. Netherlands would be cool. Then hopefully the two weakest teams possible, so we can get a result.
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3 teams we can get at least a point off. Don't care who, but imagine if we made the Quarters.
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...and everyone loves getting behind the underdog. 
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I had a dream that it was Italy, Algeria and Denmark, so I'll go with that.
You know we belong together...
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There will be 4 pots. First pot will have the top seeds, which will be South Africa (hosts), Italy (defending champions), Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, England and France (or, if France don't qualify, the Netherlands).
The remaining pots are determined on geogrpahical basis. One of them will have the remaining 8 European sides. The other two will have a combination of the teams from other confederations (assuming Uruguay qualify, it'd be 5 from CAF, 4 from AFC, 3 from CONCACAF, 3 from CONMEBOL, and NZ from OFC). So for those pots it'll be a combination of 5+3 and 4+3+1. This would mean we would be in the same pot as AFC teams, meaning we couldn't be in the same group as Australia. Which 3 ends up with us will be a FIFA decision once the qualifying compete.
NB. If Costa Rica come back in the second leg, the allocation of the last two pots would change (then we'd have an extra CONACAF team and a team less from CONMEBOL, which would change the maths a bit).
The remaining pots are determined on geogrpahical basis. One of them will have the remaining 8 European sides. The other two will have a combination of the teams from other confederations (assuming Uruguay qualify, it'd be 5 from CAF, 4 from AFC, 3 from CONCACAF, 3 from CONMEBOL, and NZ from OFC). So for those pots it'll be a combination of 5+3 and 4+3+1. This would mean we would be in the same pot as AFC teams, meaning we couldn't be in the same group as Australia. Which 3 ends up with us will be a FIFA decision once the qualifying compete.
NB. If Costa Rica come back in the second leg, the allocation of the last two pots would change (then we'd have an extra CONACAF team and a team less from CONMEBOL, which would change the maths a bit).
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I want to play Italy, so we can go all North Korea '66 on them.
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Mark (we love you) Paston (we do) (and so does my wife 
) wants England and Aussie
Ricki wants England
and The Admiral wants a weak group we can make an impression on
I'm with Ryan on this - if we can pick up a few points we will have had an influence on the World Cup -that, to me, is worth more than a game vs someone we admire/know/hold a grudge against
with football being a difficult game to predict I would not be surprised if we pick up a point of the third seeded group member, and I won't die of shock if we get two draws (not likely perhaps - but possible)
a win would have me seeking a psychiatrist 
three draws and I'd by a lotto ticket
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with football being a difficult game to predict I would not be surprised if we pick up a point of the third seeded group member, and I won't die of shock if we get two draws (not likely perhaps - but possible)
a win would have me seeking a psychiatrist
three draws and I'd by a lotto ticket
Not a ticket to the playoff? 
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Seth Efrica, Slovenia and North Korea please
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wanna smash france to shut that Le Boofhead bastard up grrrr
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and 'Arsenal'
note the disingenuous use of the emoticon as is your wont my quasi-gallic friend 
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Wonder what pot South Africa will be a part of? Some unofficial posts around the place said that they will be grouped with seven of the footballing superpowers (i.e. Brazil, England, Italy, Spain etc.). In this case, South Africa would be nice.
Another pot will be made up of basically UEFA teams. Slovakia would do here (no disrespect).
And finally, an African/Asian team that on our day, we can tip over. That's the softest draw we could get.
Getting something along the lines of what Australia got in 2006 would be nice. They got Japan, a team they share a fierce rivalry with and were beatable to them (they ended up winning 3-1); Croatia, a UEFA team that didn't put their best foot forward at the WC (eventually drew 2-2), and defending champs Brazil, the biggest team of the lot.
Another pot will be made up of basically UEFA teams. Slovakia would do here (no disrespect).
And finally, an African/Asian team that on our day, we can tip over. That's the softest draw we could get.
Getting something along the lines of what Australia got in 2006 would be nice. They got Japan, a team they share a fierce rivalry with and were beatable to them (they ended up winning 3-1); Croatia, a UEFA team that didn't put their best foot forward at the WC (eventually drew 2-2), and defending champs Brazil, the biggest team of the lot.
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In terms of us getting games we'll have a chance in, am real keen for Switzerland as a unseeded European team. If South Africa are seeded, then would be good to get them - otherwise I think England would be the other seed who we can get a result against.
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This is the goal that got slovakia to the world cup, pretty much sums up their qualifying campaign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOwTI0gzu40&feature=related
they're the uefa country that we'd have the best shot getting a result with
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOwTI0gzu40&feature=related
they're the uefa country that we'd have the best shot getting a result with
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I just hope we don't get stuck in a tough group where competition for the two qualifying spots is so intense that smashing NZ becomes the priority to improve the other teams' goal difference (like in '82 in fact). I'd love to see NZ maybe get to the third game and still have a rough mathmatical chance of qualification, however unlikely - sort of like Trinadad & Tobago and Angola in 2006.
Teams I'd be worried might give us a hiding (memories of the Confeds Cup still unpleasantly clear)are Spain, Germany, Brazil, Netherlands and to be honest some of the African teams such as Nigeria and Ivory Coast.
This WC is different from '82 when simply getting there was an achievement. Now we need to earn respect in the eyes of the football world and keep the momentum going for the development of the game in NZ. A point or nine would do wonders for that!
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personally i would love
England
Rep of Ireland (uphill battle on thurs but I have faith)
Australia
All Whites
talk about the rivalry
England
Rep of Ireland (uphill battle on thurs but I have faith)
Australia
All Whites
talk about the rivalry
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Because they got a lucky goal in their last match, doesn't mean Slovakia are rubbish or that it sums up their campaign. Seen some of their other highlights and they've had some great goals / skill. Actually, they were unlucky a couple of times by scoring own goals. But yea - more chance against them than a lot of other teams I suppose. Denmark might not be too bad to get also.
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Slovakia are damn good, don't know what that guy is on about to be honest. the coaches' son is the next C.Ronaldo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMr_Mw9CVIE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMr_Mw9CVIE&feature=related
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There will be 4 pots. First pot will have the top seeds, which will be South Africa (hosts), Italy (defending champions), Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, England and France (or, if France don't qualify, the Netherlands).
The remaining pots are determined on geogrpahical basis. One of them will have the remaining 8 European sides. The other two will have a combination of the teams from other confederations (assuming Uruguay qualify, it'd be 5 from CAF, 4 from AFC, 3 from CONCACAF, 3 from CONMEBOL, and NZ from OFC). So for those pots it'll be a combination of 5+3 and 4+3+1. This would mean we would be in the same pot as AFC teams, meaning we couldn't be in the same group as Australia. Which 3 ends up with us will be a FIFA decision once the qualifying compete.
NB. If Costa Rica come back in the second leg, the allocation of the last two pots would change (then we'd have an extra CONACAF team and a team less from CONMEBOL, which would change the maths a bit).
The remaining pots are determined on geogrpahical basis. One of them will have the remaining 8 European sides. The other two will have a combination of the teams from other confederations (assuming Uruguay qualify, it'd be 5 from CAF, 4 from AFC, 3 from CONCACAF, 3 from CONMEBOL, and NZ from OFC). So for those pots it'll be a combination of 5+3 and 4+3+1. This would mean we would be in the same pot as AFC teams, meaning we couldn't be in the same group as Australia. Which 3 ends up with us will be a FIFA decision once the qualifying compete.
NB. If Costa Rica come back in the second leg, the allocation of the last two pots would change (then we'd have an extra CONACAF team and a team less from CONMEBOL, which would change the maths a bit).
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Cheers DS - we got off on the wrong foot, so I'll use this opportunity to apologise for my outburst of a few days ago.
Back to the draw, to clarify a few things. South Africa ARE seeded. They are A1, that's been known for a long time. The other seeds are listed in my post above. We will have at least one European team in our group, possibly two (depending on which seeded team we draw). We also have 5/8 of a chance of having an African team in our group.
With this in mind, South Africa would be good to get as by far the weakest seed. They're also the weakest African country, and having them in our group would spare us potentially getting Ivory Coast/Cameroon/Nigeria/Ghana, which I think would be incredibly difficult opponents for us. That would mean we'd get one the teams from the 3 in that pot from either CONCACAF (USA, Mexico, Honduras), or from CONMEBOL (Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, assuming they'll finish the qualifying job). All of these would be tough, but Honduras would be just as inexperienced as us t this level, so would be the best option. Then if we get a middling European side (take your pick of Denmark, Slovakia, Switzerland, Greece/Ukraine), we could be in a very reasonable group. But we'll need big luck in the draw for that. We could just as easily end up in a group with Brazil, The Netherlands and Ivory Coast.
Back to the draw, to clarify a few things. South Africa ARE seeded. They are A1, that's been known for a long time. The other seeds are listed in my post above. We will have at least one European team in our group, possibly two (depending on which seeded team we draw). We also have 5/8 of a chance of having an African team in our group.
With this in mind, South Africa would be good to get as by far the weakest seed. They're also the weakest African country, and having them in our group would spare us potentially getting Ivory Coast/Cameroon/Nigeria/Ghana, which I think would be incredibly difficult opponents for us. That would mean we'd get one the teams from the 3 in that pot from either CONCACAF (USA, Mexico, Honduras), or from CONMEBOL (Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, assuming they'll finish the qualifying job). All of these would be tough, but Honduras would be just as inexperienced as us t this level, so would be the best option. Then if we get a middling European side (take your pick of Denmark, Slovakia, Switzerland, Greece/Ukraine), we could be in a very reasonable group. But we'll need big luck in the draw for that. We could just as easily end up in a group with Brazil, The Netherlands and Ivory Coast.
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Cheers DS - we got off on the wrong foot, so I'll use this opportunity to apologise for my outburst of a few days ago.
Back to the draw, to clarify a few things. South Africa ARE seeded. They are A1, that's been known for a long time. The other seeds are listed in my post above. We will have at least one European team in our group, possibly two (depending on which seeded team we draw). We also have 5/8 of a chance of having an African team in our group.
With this in mind, South Africa would be good to get as by far the weakest seed. They're also the weakest African country, and having them in our group would spare us potentially getting Ivory Coast/Cameroon/Nigeria/Ghana, which I think would be incredibly difficult opponents for us. That would mean we'd get one the teams from the 3 in that pot from either CONCACAF (USA, Mexico, Honduras), or from CONMEBOL (Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, assuming they'll finish the qualifying job). All of these would be tough, but Honduras would be just as inexperienced as us t this level, so would be the best option. Then if we get a middling European side (take your pick of Denmark, Slovakia, Switzerland, Greece/Ukraine), we could be in a very reasonable group. But we'll need big luck in the draw for that. We could just as easily end up in a group with Brazil, The Netherlands and Ivory Coast.
Back to the draw, to clarify a few things. South Africa ARE seeded. They are A1, that's been known for a long time. The other seeds are listed in my post above. We will have at least one European team in our group, possibly two (depending on which seeded team we draw). We also have 5/8 of a chance of having an African team in our group.
With this in mind, South Africa would be good to get as by far the weakest seed. They're also the weakest African country, and having them in our group would spare us potentially getting Ivory Coast/Cameroon/Nigeria/Ghana, which I think would be incredibly difficult opponents for us. That would mean we'd get one the teams from the 3 in that pot from either CONCACAF (USA, Mexico, Honduras), or from CONMEBOL (Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, assuming they'll finish the qualifying job). All of these would be tough, but Honduras would be just as inexperienced as us t this level, so would be the best option. Then if we get a middling European side (take your pick of Denmark, Slovakia, Switzerland, Greece/Ukraine), we could be in a very reasonable group. But we'll need big luck in the draw for that. We could just as easily end up in a group with Brazil, The Netherlands and Ivory Coast.
Exactly right. I think SA would be a decent team to share a group with too. But, arguably more importantly, it means we won't get another African team who would potentially put us to the sword. Good call, la.
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