Would the Phoenix beat the AW's?

Would the Phoenix beat the AW's?

Just watching this game got me thinking....would this AW side beat a side made up of the remaining Phoenix players? 

0-0 stalemate.

great minds think alike! i think the phoenix would win. More depth i think.  Gao, Daniel, Durrante, Mckain, Ferrante the difference.

I actually think the AW's would win fairly comfortably. Better defense (Nelsen, Lochhead), more muscle in the midfield and Smeltz to provide the quality up front.

but the phoenix would have lochead and smeltz in there team as well..

on currant form (oops wrong topic, me old fruit) -  no

Bloody 'ell, not raisen that again... HarryHotspur2008-09-06 20:45:50

with clones or what? 

All Whites would beat the nix, assuming the All Whites had preference on the kiwi players that appear in both teams.

Maybe NZF should look into playing this as a fundraiser

There is one question which stands out above all others were this hypothetical fixture to become a reality.

good point JR,

I would hope the AW's would be able to beat the Phoenix since they are an international team but i would back the PHOENIX

Phoenix would easily win

Did you see the Adelaide game ?

Don't be silly, the AW's would have Ryan Nelsen in defense first of all, he's a completely different class to McKain and Durante. I'd say the AWs midfield of Elliott and Oughton is stronger as well, perhaps a little less creativity compared to Gao and Daniel but Killen is arguably a superior player to Smeltz, certainly lightyears ahead of Kwasnik. I don't think the AWs even lose out that much on the flanks. Brockie, James and Pearce are all young, talented players.
KTBW2008-09-07 17:06:45

Fair call

The All Whites will win, of course. there are more players to call from. Especially as the above mentions from overseas. However, the creativity factor is something to consider and is much needed in the All Whites for that X factor during the internationals. It basically separated us from better teams, IMHO.

AWB

How Would The Phoenix Win The All Whites Would Have The First Pick Over Kiwi Players

Draper and Costa never get a run ahead of Hearfield anyway...

Same question could be asked "would Man U beat England"? A club side could and should in theory beat their international team because they train together day in, day out and play regularly. By that reasoning I'd go for the Phoenix ordinarily, but on current form 1-0 to All Whites due to either teams only goal scorer being with the AW's. He'd be the difference (on current form)

Think about it this way:

If Ricky hadn't pissed off certain AWs and players such as Rory Fallon were smarter then they are the  AWs would piss all over the Phoenix:

Moss/Paston/Spoonley

Mulligan/Nelsen/Sigmund/Hay/Bunce/Reid/Boyens

Oughton/Hickey/Boukenooghe/Vichelich/De Gregorio/Elliot/Bertos/Brockie/James

Fallon/Smeltz/Smith/Pearce/Killen/Costa

I realise that one or two names here never have or will be AWs but NZ Football should have tried harder to get them in white, and yes Hay has retired but there is a couple of names here whom I really believe should still be part of the AW set and taken the pick of the above boys would beat the best selection from the Phoenix over their two year history.

Dude, some of those former AW's became prima donnas who couldn't hack being cut from the team by younger talent. They just gave up trying to get back into the team and open their mouths to express what a sore loser they have been and that now they are just too long in the tooth.

Some have graciously left due to lack of playing years and knowing some of the talent that was coming up was challenging to them.

The only problem was during the losing south america trip and it was the seniors players that had a chip on their shoulders, Ricky was building a team for the World cup in mind and they thought they had total ownership on team positions, in which they don't have. They couldn't change their habits and played the idiot card. I have no sympathy for sore losers acting up. If they can't respect the coach who has done a number of things to change the way we are playing, then they shouldn't be there. Full stop.

If the Phoenix played the All Whites would Ricki coach both teams? simon_hampton2008-09-14 21:19:36

All I know is, the game wouldn't go down as a classic...

Costa, Draper, etc can;t make the All White because they're no good enough yet.

More details needed I think, starting lineups/scorers ect.

What i was trying to say was that they would get first choice over all our new zealanders so they should really beat us comfortably

your a genius CL, FIFA 08 will obviously give us perfect insight and put this debate to rest for good

Fine, we'll use FM08 then!

Nothing will help us settle this debate except a highly unlikely friendly match.

this method is becoming a universally accepted means of providing insight to the relative strengths of sides; often used/played in the build up to major tournaments and often proved near accurate.

One game I actually remember All Whites vs Werder Bremen.

My first memorable taste of big game football! Actually it's a pity that I had to wait until the 17th of August this year to get the feeling recreated.

All Whites would roll them the way the Phoenix are playing.