9-1, 8-0 Where is the defensive pride?

9-1, 8-0 Where is the defensive pride?

We have an NZFC in which we are getting scores of 9-1, 8-0, - what is going on with the coaches of these teams. Regardless how bad your players are surely the coaches can teach the teams to defend as a whole.

Milicich commented on Otago's set-up against them but at least Otago only got beat by 4 and 3 by WU and ACFC respectively. What excuse do Canterbury and Manawatu have for being beaten by 9 and 8. Where is the pride in two major football areas of NZ and their players.

Waikato have an average team but at least we are hard to score against as we are organised and defend as a group not individuals. I can't see Waitakere or Team Wellingtoon running roughshod over a Northern Premier League side so how can it occur in the NZFC?

Are we losing the pride in defending which has been a hallmark of all our great teams in the past - including the 82 All Whites?

i guess the league is getting top heavy due to the $ secured by World CC

Who beat Canterbury 9-1? That is a joke i'm afraid and i agree scores like this should never occur in the NZFC it just makes the league look more of a joke.

Team Wellington beat Manawatu beat 8-0 and they have never been to CWC
whats your point?
Or are you just trying to justify your potential inclusion in the O-League

Whaaaaaaaat?

Happyted, all too happy to turn every thread into an argument on why the Nix are good or bad for the game.

I think Feverish is just pointing out that Waitak and ACFC are getting a lot of good attacking players into their squads and he believes that it is down to the money and exposure they get from going to the CWC. Rather than the "NZFC teams going to the CWC is bad for the game, send the Nix instead!" You seem to be reading in his comment.
Critical_Lemon2008-01-21 17:48:20

Maybe feverish can explain what he meant then?
Were'nt Auckland & Waitakare the 2 top teams in 1st year of NZFC when there was no CWC?
and how does he explain Wellingtons 8-0 win over Manawatu? nothing to do with the CWC money as they have have'nt been there ye,t yes Manawatu did lose Totori to Waitakare but that surely isnt the reason they lost 8-0
 

No it's probably not. My opinion is that the teams just need to sort themselves out, even if the opposition are playing a blinder no team should lose that heavily to a team from the same league.

its a sad sad season for Can U

another player's walked out today making it 5? this season...

Finally someone is talking about Canterbury United!  Pity the topic.

Has S. kelly pissed off to Aussie yet?

One thing i can't work out about Canterbury this season is how a team that has been reasonably good and consistent for the first 3 seasons has gone to complete sh*t in the 4th.

There must be something wrong in the dressing room.

I was the instigator of this thread and I was certainly not comparing teams I was just asking what is going on with the defensive ability in our NZFC teams. I am a supporter of Waikato and the Phoenix and I dont compare them to each other as that would be stupid.

I am concerned that teams are getting smashed in the NZFC and why has it been allowed to occur. Would it mean that if we put a strong defensive coach in at Canterbury it would be better or does the players he have available just not up to it.

Plus this is the NZFC thread not the phoenix thread. Our young players need to be playing with experienced older players to learn the game. Putting in 11 kids is a terrible way to prepare players for the NZFC and beyond. They need to be nurtured and taught how to defend. Individually anyone can defend but when they need to do it as a team in all the various situations that occur that is when they learn.

I have watched Auckland and Waitakere quite a bit this year and the one thing about both of them is their defenders all back each other up and when one makes a mistake he is covered by one of the others. That can only occur when they are well coached plus they are experienced defenders. We all accept young defenders will make mistakes but having 4 of them is tantamount to accepting you will leak goals at bad times.

Having a strong set of defenders means you can really push on and attack and this makes defending even easier as you dont have to defend so many players as they are held back by your attackers. Defending well is a team thing and I will guarantee (without seeing the game) that Canterbury didnt defend as a team at all - even really bad defenders if they defend as a team would not concede 9 goals.

It is not a good thing for the league or for the young defenders - they need to look at the likes of Sigmund, Hay, Ulhmann, Perry and watch how they do it as pairings. Young players who think they are good have been given a wake up call - will they heed it?

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Is the answer to expand the comp? Add another Auckland team? Obviously it will dilute the quality of the current two Akl sides and possibly even Waikato but if it makes the league more competitive is it worth it?

How would that help teams play better? In fact the last thing you want to do in a league of poor quality is expand it.

Yeah that's what I'm trying to say - to even the league out  adding another Auckland team makes sense as you'd spread the talent from those two sides but then that would be at the expense of the overall quality. Would that just be short term - probably. Would that benefit the league and the game? I think it would eventually - more players playing at a higher level and more teams capable of winning it. 

makes freeking good entertainment though

I think you'll find that both the amounts your quote for Sigmund and Fa'arodo are what they were getting at Fawkner (Sigmund) and Altona Magic (Fa'arodo) and not Auckland City

maybe we should just make it a six team comp and chop the Akld teams

You could be right but Sigmund has been living in Auckland for 3 years or so
Fa'arodo does seem to follow the cash but cant blame him for that
were's Terris and Fisher?

Are those the same World Club Champs you've never been to yet we have?

I'm playing FM managing Stalybridge Celtic it's hard to remain calm

How did they embarrass the country?
by finishing last at the tournament?
not unlike your recent A-League campaign?

at least we can keep an a-league team

give it seven years then start boasting ....golly didnt you do well tho...who was behind you at the end?

they need new defensive coaches