Sounds like she stood you up or had you blacklisted for not doing a soft interview. Which was it?
You're speaking about my first screen love Ed. It was 1959 and 'The Apartment' and life was never the same. So "shut up and deal".
Sounds like she stood you up or had you blacklisted for not doing a soft interview. Which was it?
You're speaking about my first screen love Ed. It was 1959 and 'The Apartment' and life was never the same. So "shut up and deal".
Sounds like she stood you up or had you blacklisted for not doing a soft interview. Which was it?
You're speaking about my first screen love Ed. It was 1959 and 'The Apartment' and life was never the same. So "shut up and deal".
Throwing more imports at it is not the answer I agree (huge cheers all around) mainly because ACFC can't afford the kind of imports that would make a big difference. I have also long championed developing NZ players, both in the ASBP and at the Phoenix. I think the best 'import' ACFC has done in the past five years was bringing Ivan Vicelich back from Holland. I like Tade and Corrales and am pleased Tade will be back for the Dragon game. They aren't really imports as such because ACFC got them from TW. Likewise Bale was at Waitakere before coming to City. Exposito was a classy striker when he first arrived because he wanted to revive his professional career through the CWC and when that never happened he's faded. Gustavo is clearly a good striker and as you point out Berlanga was a good find. Riera is also a battler, like Dickinson. But I think NZ players like Thomas, Morgan, McGeoge could have been groomed to fill those roles. Hopefully the title winning ACFC youth squad will provide some good young NZ talent for the future.
I'm not sure about the top of the tree comment. ACFC have won silverware every season since 2008. For the club it's the O League that's the most important, not least for financial reasons. To that end they've somewhat allowed Waitakere to dominate the ASBP final for the last three years, except ACFC did finish minor premiership champions in 2011/12 which really is the true test as the actual final is a one off. The club primarily gears itself for the O League while Waitakere seems to now focus on domestic honours. The results seem to reflect that.
The question I was asking is how do they get back to the top of the tree? Throwing more imports at it obviously is not working...
Waitakerie has 2 new players, both Brits, seemingly brought in specifically to bolster their O-League squad. One Robson, started against ACFC. One could also call De Vries an import - I'd say Tade has been in NZ longer than he. So that makes for 5 Waitak imports who lined up last week against City's 7. (Figures approximate but nevertheless disprove your comments above, JV).
Not to mention that Chad's been accused of coming from another planet sometimes so that makes it six.
I think there's no question Ramon favours Spanish imports if he can because of the style he wants to play and because he feels more comfortable with them. Bit like Wenger favouring French players at Arsenal over the years. Personally I think there's been too many, I don't think for instance Garcia adds anything a Kiwi couldn't. There are a host of NZ players at City who have come and gone because of that and it's a shame. The best City team was under Paul Posa in 2008/2009 which was predominently Kiwi. Young and Jordan were the best imports City has ever had.
I think the likes of Dan Morgan, Adam Thomas and McGeorge left because they felt they wouldn't get first team games and Chad Coombes just didn't fit with Ramon's plans. I'd have prefered all of them were still City players. I'd like to see Feneredis back as a regular starter too. Milne is shaping up, but I still don't think he's a LB and I hope David Browne stays and develops. I don't rate the Japanese lad. If we don't win the O League this year I think that could be the end of the Ramon era. I'd love to see Paul Posa back.
Sounds like she stood you up or had you blacklisted for not doing a soft interview. Which was it?
You're speaking about my first screen love Ed. It was 1959 and 'The Apartment' and life was never the same. So "shut up and deal".
Ah, but old age and treachery will always beat youth and optimism Jerzy.
I think there's no question Ramon favours Spanish imports if he can because of the style he wants to play and because he feels more comfortable with them. Bit like Wenger favouring French players at Arsenal over the years. Personally I think there's been too many, I don't think for instance Garcia adds anything a Kiwi couldn't. There are a host of NZ players at City who have come and gone because of that and it's a shame. The best City team was under Paul Posa in 2008/2009 which was predominently Kiwi. Young and Jordan were the best imports City has ever had.
I think the likes of Dan Morgan, Adam Thomas and McGeorge left because they felt they wouldn't get first team games and Chad Coombes just didn't fit with Ramon's plans. I'd have prefered all of them were still City players. I'd like to see Feneredis back as a regular starter too. Milne is shaping up, but I still don't think he's a LB and I hope David Browne stays and develops. I don't rate the Japanese lad. If we don't win the O League this year I think that could be the end of the Ramon era. I'd love to see Paul Posa back.
I guess if the further thinking is investigated, as a young player with talent in the youth team, are you likely to get a serious first team consideration knowing that the coach prefers imports? Stephen Carmichael has talent a plenty but doesn't get a sniff. I guess the question is 'do I stay at City if I am a youth player and chance it or back my self to go somewhere else' If I look at the young players at City, Browne stands out, with Carmichael then Arms. I think Arms got a run because he was position specific to a need (Berlanga left) so like the quality players before them that have been seen to have left, do they leave too?
I think there's no question Ramon favours Spanish imports if he can because of the style he wants to play and because he feels more comfortable with them. Bit like Wenger favouring French players at Arsenal over the years. Personally I think there's been too many, I don't think for instance Garcia adds anything a Kiwi couldn't. There are a host of NZ players at City who have come and gone because of that and it's a shame. The best City team was under Paul Posa in 2008/2009 which was predominently Kiwi. Young and Jordan were the best imports City has ever had.
I think the likes of Dan Morgan, Adam Thomas and McGeorge left because they felt they wouldn't get first team games and Chad Coombes just didn't fit with Ramon's plans. I'd have prefered all of them were still City players. I'd like to see Feneredis back as a regular starter too. Milne is shaping up, but I still don't think he's a LB and I hope David Browne stays and develops. I don't rate the Japanese lad. If we don't win the O League this year I think that could be the end of the Ramon era. I'd love to see Paul Posa back.
I guess if the further thinking is investigated, as a young player with talent in the youth team, are you likely to get a serious first team consideration knowing that the coach prefers imports? Stephen Carmichael has talent a plenty but doesn't get a sniff. I guess the question is 'do I stay at City if I am a youth player and chance it or back my self to go somewhere else' If I look at the young players at City, Browne stands out, with Carmichael then Arms. I think Arms got a run because he was position specific to a need (Berlanga left) so like the quality players before them that have been seen to have left, do they leave too?
Crikey JV, we've got to stop agreeing so much!
I think there's no question Ramon favours Spanish imports if he can because of the style he wants to play and because he feels more comfortable with them. Bit like Wenger favouring French players at Arsenal over the years. Personally I think there's been too many, I don't think for instance Garcia adds anything a Kiwi couldn't. There are a host of NZ players at City who have come and gone because of that and it's a shame. The best City team was under Paul Posa in 2008/2009 which was predominently Kiwi. Young and Jordan were the best imports City has ever had.
I think the likes of Dan Morgan, Adam Thomas and McGeorge left because they felt they wouldn't get first team games and Chad Coombes just didn't fit with Ramon's plans. I'd have prefered all of them were still City players. I'd like to see Feneredis back as a regular starter too. Milne is shaping up, but I still don't think he's a LB and I hope David Browne stays and develops. I don't rate the Japanese lad. If we don't win the O League this year I think that could be the end of the Ramon era. I'd love to see Paul Posa back.
I guess if the further thinking is investigated, as a young player with talent in the youth team, are you likely to get a serious first team consideration knowing that the coach prefers imports? Stephen Carmichael has talent a plenty but doesn't get a sniff. I guess the question is 'do I stay at City if I am a youth player and chance it or back my self to go somewhere else' If I look at the young players at City, Browne stands out, with Carmichael then Arms. I think Arms got a run because he was position specific to a need (Berlanga left) so like the quality players before them that have been seen to have left, do they leave too?
Crikey JV, we've got to stop agreeing so much!
Now Jack Lemon and Tony Curtis. Bless.
I think there's no question Ramon favours Spanish imports if he can because of the style he wants to play and because he feels more comfortable with them. Bit like Wenger favouring French players at Arsenal over the years. Personally I think there's been too many, I don't think for instance Garcia adds anything a Kiwi couldn't. There are a host of NZ players at City who have come and gone because of that and it's a shame. The best City team was under Paul Posa in 2008/2009 which was predominently Kiwi. Young and Jordan were the best imports City has ever had.
I think the likes of Dan Morgan, Adam Thomas and McGeorge left because they felt they wouldn't get first team games and Chad Coombes just didn't fit with Ramon's plans. I'd have prefered all of them were still City players. I'd like to see Feneredis back as a regular starter too. Milne is shaping up, but I still don't think he's a LB and I hope David Browne stays and develops. I don't rate the Japanese lad. If we don't win the O League this year I think that could be the end of the Ramon era. I'd love to see Paul Posa back.
I guess if the further thinking is investigated, as a young player with talent in the youth team, are you likely to get a serious first team consideration knowing that the coach prefers imports? Stephen Carmichael has talent a plenty but doesn't get a sniff. I guess the question is 'do I stay at City if I am a youth player and chance it or back my self to go somewhere else' If I look at the young players at City, Browne stands out, with Carmichael then Arms. I think Arms got a run because he was position specific to a need (Berlanga left) so like the quality players before them that have been seen to have left, do they leave too?
I'm pretty sure I've seen Stephen Carmichael playing ASB at Kiwitea as an ACFC substitute. Some time ago tho.
Yes he has, but it's not been this year I think.
Nah he's just been masquerading as the Youth League's top scorer and a big class above everyone else in that age group. If Auckland really didn't need him this year they should have loaned him out to my poor Waikato, he would have started every game, and that'd have been more beneficial to his career.
Not just Waikato of course, I'm just being greedy
Nah he's just been masquerading as the Youth League's top scorer and a big class above everyone else in that age group. If Auckland really didn't need him this year they should have loaned him out to my poor Waikato, he would have started every game, and that'd have been more beneficial to his career.
Not just Waikato of course, I'm just being greedy
Is a draw enough for ACFC to progress today? Losing 1-0 to AS Dragon atm.
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Yes!!! Now for an exciting home and away against Fiji's Ba. Last time the Fijian side played in Auckland they attracted a couple of thousand local supporters so expect compact Kiwitea Street to be packed to the rafters for the home game. Might even have to consider shifting the game to Trusts Stadium if the crowd's going to exceed Kiwitea's 3,000 odd capacity.
Yes!!! Now for an exciting home and away against Fiji's Ba. Last time the Fijian side played in Auckland they attracted a couple of thousand local supporters so expect compact Kiwitea Street to be packed to the rafters for the home game. Might even have to consider shifting the game to Trusts Stadium if the crowd's going to exceed Kiwitea's 3,000 odd capacity.
Yes!!! Now for an exciting home and away against Fiji's Ba. Last time the Fijian side played in Auckland they attracted a couple of thousand local supporters so expect compact Kiwitea Street to be packed to the rafters for the home game. Might even have to consider shifting the game to Trusts Stadium if the crowd's going to exceed Kiwitea's 3,000 odd capacity.
1: it was an issue to play your game against Dragon at the The Trusts and as was said, losing the Kiwitea Street advantage was a reason you cited for that loss so why would you be so quick to suggest it again in a crucial game?
2: It's your home game. Having seen the Ba game at Waitakere and the size of that crowd, the only thing a larger crowd is going to do is be full of their supporters effectively turning it into an away game so why play into that?
Your best bet is Kiwitea street and then put up the full house sign once done because its not like the club needs the money and the extra bods in revenue vs the cost the of operating Mt Smart... You'll have that atmosphere and it wont make it entirely 'their' crowd. This is meant to be your home game, not theirs.
Yes!!! Now for an exciting home and away against Fiji's Ba. Last time the Fijian side played in Auckland they attracted a couple of thousand local supporters so expect compact Kiwitea Street to be packed to the rafters for the home game. Might even have to consider shifting the game to Trusts Stadium if the crowd's going to exceed Kiwitea's 3,000 odd capacity.
1: it was an issue to play your game against Dragon at the The Trusts and as was said, losing the Kiwitea Street advantage was a reason you cited for that loss so why would you be so quick to suggest it again in a crucial game?
2: It's your home game. Having seen the Ba game at Waitakere and the size of that crowd, the only thing a larger crowd is going to do is be full of their supporters effectively turning it into an away game so why play into that?
Your best bet is Kiwitea street and then put up the full house sign once done because its not like the club needs the money and the extra bods in revenue vs the cost the of operating Mt Smart... You'll have that atmosphere and it wont make it entirely 'their' crowd. This is meant to be your home game, not theirs.
Good lord I agree ...if Ba supporters want to come , let them turn up early : otherwise ....sorry lads ...all full up ....u really would have to be a mug to agree to playing at Mt Smart ..unless of course the cash incentives are overwhelming...
NB ACFC still has the game at Kiwitea...hopefully thats right..
Yes!!! Now for an exciting home and away against Fiji's Ba. Last time the Fijian side played in Auckland they attracted a couple of thousand local supporters so expect compact Kiwitea Street to be packed to the rafters for the home game. Might even have to consider shifting the game to Trusts Stadium if the crowd's going to exceed Kiwitea's 3,000 odd capacity.
1: it was an issue to play your game against Dragon at the The Trusts and as was said, losing the Kiwitea Street advantage was a reason you cited for that loss so why would you be so quick to suggest it again in a crucial game?
2: It's your home game. Having seen the Ba game at Waitakere and the size of that crowd, the only thing a larger crowd is going to do is be full of their supporters effectively turning it into an away game so why play into that?
Your best bet is Kiwitea street and then put up the full house sign once done because its not like the club needs the money and the extra bods in revenue vs the cost the of operating Mt Smart... You'll have that atmosphere and it wont make it entirely 'their' crowd. This is meant to be your home game, not theirs.
As you know JV I'd much prefer the home advantage of Kiwitea Street, and as Dragon was not going to attract thousands of their supporters to the game with City it was the obvious venue.
But I also witnessed the shambles at Fred Taylor when Ba played Waitakere and spectators were four deep around the ground and as there's no raised seating most were left to try and grab glimpses of the game through heads and shoulders.
If 5,000+ turn up at Kiwitea Street, as is possible for Ba, it would be too much for the compact ground which I think at best can handle 3500. Thus I would grudgingly accept moving to a bigger venue out of necessity. That certainly wasn't the case for Dragon. I don't think shutting out potentially thousands of supporters is the answer. There could be a riot.
Does that help your confusion or is it still too early in the morning for you?
I disagree. I think it should be played at Kiwitea St. It's time the ground the ground's capacity was put to the test.
PS Great result in Tahiti! Rah! Rah! Shows City's resilience under pressure.
Yeah I kinda think I'd keep it at Kiwitea. If the capacity is 3500, then max it out, and LIMIT their supporters on an away match. If its a full house and people can't get in, then so be it. This is for some big prize money at the end of it, not some sandwiches and a backslap.
You might get 6k for Mt Smart? No bar takings, more of their fans, plus operating cost of the ground. I'm not sure it's a smart move (pun intended).
Yeah I kinda think I'd keep it at Kiwitea. If the capacity is 3500, then max it out, and LIMIT their supporters on an away match. If its a full house and people can't get in, then so be it. This is for some big prize money at the end of it, not some sandwiches and a backslap.
You might get 6k for Mt Smart? No bar takings, more of their fans, plus operating cost of the ground. I'm not sure it's a smart move (pun intended).
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Yeah I kinda think I'd keep it at Kiwitea. If the capacity is 3500, then max it out, and LIMIT their supporters on an away match. If its a full house and people can't get in, then so be it. This is for some big prize money at the end of it, not some sandwiches and a backslap.
You might get 6k for Mt Smart? No bar takings, more of their fans, plus operating cost of the ground. I'm not sure it's a smart move (pun intended).
AND ME !!
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So waitakere have to move their final because the ground isn't considered good enough for the occasion, but ACFC shouldn't move their game despite the fact it isn't good enough for the occasion (isn't big enough to hold all fans). Interesting.
Yeah. We're a contrary lot. Might come down to OFC making the decision - as I believe they did with Trusts Stadium.
So waitakere have to move their final because the ground isn't considered good enough for the occasion, but ACFC shouldn't move their game despite the fact it isn't good enough for the occasion (isn't big enough to hold all fans). Interesting.
No scums ground has NO facilities ,except adequate grazing , Kiwitea has excellent facilities except , not for the numbers OFC hope will turn up ....sometimes you got to turn up early and get in quick.... whatever happened to home advantage...BTW I believe the scum SHOULD be able to hold their semi at home , after all its not like theres going to be any sort of crowd there.....
Venue ha been confirmed as Kiwitea Street.
Oh dear Tegal wont be happy!!!
Oh dear Tegal wont be happy!!!
HE !!
2013 OFC Champions League
Semi-Final Leg 1, Official Confirmation:
Auckland City FC vs Ba FC
Sunday 5 May 2013
3pm KO
Kiwitea Street, Sandringham, Auckland
So waitakere have to move their final because the ground isn't considered good enough for the occasion, but ACFC shouldn't move their game despite the fact it isn't good enough for the occasion (isn't big enough to hold all fans). Interesting.
For heavens sake try to keep up Tegal. Fred Taylor Paddock has no covered stand, Kiwitea Street does, that was the issue for the ASBP final. If you're going to take a none-too-subtle dig at ACFC at least try and instill some sense to it.
Oh dear Tegal wont be happy!!!
Well you can understand it R&C, we're talking about a kiwi football side which actually wins silverware. Not something they've ever experienced in Wellington. It must be galling for the poor dears.
2013 OFC Champions League
Semi-Final Leg 1, Official Confirmation:
Auckland City FC vs Ba FC
Sunday 5 May 2013
3pm KO
Kiwitea Street, Sandringham, Auckland
That's good news then. My advice - get there early! Perhaps JV, who admits he doesn't like Kiwitea Street, might like to vacate his spot to a Ba fan who will probably thoroughly enjoy the best little ground in the country, not to mention the excellent steak sandwiches and passionate fans..
Oh dear Tegal wont be happy!!!
Doesn't actually bother me. I think it should be at kiwitea street. I'm suggesting that to be consistent, some of you lot should be unhappy at the decision.
FT didnt have a stand so should have been moved. Kiwitea can't hold enough capacity, so should be moved.
But it seems "whatever happened to home advantage" only applies to ACFC. They should get to enjoy home advantage, but anyone else should be made to move the game to a more suitable venue.
Honourbale mention to the profiterolles (sp?) found at Island Bay but I've only found them there once disappointingly.
Oh dear Tegal wont be happy!!!
Doesn't actually bother me. I think it should be at kiwitea street. I'm suggesting that to be consistent, some of you lot should be unhappy at the decision.
FT didnt have a stand so should have been moved. Kiwitea can't hold enough capacity, so should be moved.
But it seems "whatever happened to home advantage" only applies to ACFC. They should get to enjoy home advantage, but anyone else should be made to move the game to a more suitable venue.
Maybe you should have a covered stand ...as was a prerequiste in season 1 ...which I do believe ACFC were the only ones to purpose build one ...as Ive said before , Im more than keen for you to stand in the weather in a paddock , by all means , take all your friends...whatever
In season 1 Team Wellington played at Newtown park which has a lovely stand.
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