Well it has come down to this. Can Team Wellington beat Auckland city and break the Auckland Domination of the NZFC?
If i remember correctly Team Wellington have never beaten Auckland City in any match since the beginning of the NZFC. Can they overtake history?
I am picking a 1-1 draw with the home semi final being in Wellington.
Reasons: No Uhlmann and Sigmund. Makes city weak in defence and their cover seems to be young players. The young players may be able to cope but against a team that is scoring a lot could be difficult.
Who wins the semi-final will depend on where it is.
If i remember correctly Team Wellington have never beaten Auckland City in any match since the beginning of the NZFC. Can they overtake history?
I am picking a 1-1 draw with the home semi final being in Wellington.
Reasons: No Uhlmann and Sigmund. Makes city weak in defence and their cover seems to be young players. The young players may be able to cope but against a team that is scoring a lot could be difficult.
Who wins the semi-final will depend on where it is.
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honestly i dont believe that TW stand a chance of winning. City seem to be our bogey side. No matter how good we are playing we never seem to do that well. even a draw may be a stretch.
I really hope to be proven wrong but thats just the way it looks
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Who wins the semi-final will depend on where it is.
I take it you're discounting the possibility that we might not have to play Auckland at all in the semis. We only need to have Waitakere lose to Otago 3-0 and for us to beat Auckland 3-0....
Erm, I'll get my coat.
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Why would TW winning break the Auckland domination exactly? We came 3rd behind Manawatu last year and the year before that Waitak didn't even make the playoffs, despite the fact they encompassed the top 5 teams.
City to win 2-1. But i'd rather lose to TW on Sat and beat Waitak on Wed night if i'm honest with you.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Why would TW winning break the Auckland domination exactly?
Auckland have won the NZFC every year haven't they? So if TW win the semi against Auckland, the Auckland domination is broken. I think that was what he meant - at least that's how I read it.
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We could still win the Grand Final though.
Three for me, and two for them.
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If i remember correctly Team Wellington have never beaten Auckland City in any match since the beginning of the NZFC.
I just checked and you're right:
Oct 25, 2004
Auckland City
v
Team Wellington [+]
5-1
Kiwitea Street
Dec 19, 2004
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
1-4
Newtown Park
Feb 5, 2005
Auckland City
v
Team Wellington [+]
2-1
Kiwitea Street
Nov 26, 2005
Auckland City
v
Team Wellington [+]
5-3
Kiwitea Street,..
Jan 8, 2006
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
4-6
Newtown Park, W..
Mar 5, 2006
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
0-4
Newtown Park, W..
Nov 18, 2006
Auckland City
v
Team Wellington [+]
1-0
Kiwitea Street,..
Jan 20, 2007
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
2-6
Newtown Park, W..
Mar 10, 2007
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
2-3
Newtown Park, W..
Dec 15, 2007
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
1-1
Newtown Park
Feb 6, 2008
Auckland City
v
Team Wellington [+]
2-0
Kiwitea Street
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We could still win the Grand Final though.
I thought he meant if we win the semi.
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that 'spreadsheet' makes frightening reading
but with siggy and Uhlmann out we might just create history, and just matching that historic draw from 2007 would do (albeit at their place rather than at home)
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Well if we pick Sinkora, you're in the money.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Maybe WP could loan some people to TW
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Yep Auckland City's domination of the league. no one else has won the grand final and in our current set-up that is all that counts. Whether we like the playoffs or not this is what we have to watch.
Yes all three teams could win the Grand Final at the moment. Regardless the outcome on Saturday it is going to be Auckland or Wgtn playing Waitakere in the final (unless of course Otago do something so unusual as to score 3 or 4 goals past a team who has conceded 12 all year but hey its footy - could happen)
either way everyone's season is now coming to a head and as Jacobs said the other day all the teams seem to be waiting to get going. I am so looking forward to Sunday's game - going to be a bloody cracker
Yes all three teams could win the Grand Final at the moment. Regardless the outcome on Saturday it is going to be Auckland or Wgtn playing Waitakere in the final (unless of course Otago do something so unusual as to score 3 or 4 goals past a team who has conceded 12 all year but hey its footy - could happen)
either way everyone's season is now coming to a head and as Jacobs said the other day all the teams seem to be waiting to get going. I am so looking forward to Sunday's game - going to be a bloody cracker
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I hope it's a great game too Marama, the Waitangi Day contest up here left a lot to be desired.
Three for me, and two for them.
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If i remember correctly Team Wellington have never beaten Auckland City in any match since the beginning of the NZFC.
I just checked and you're right:
Oct 25, 2004
Auckland City
v
Team Wellington [+]
5-1
Kiwitea Street
Dec 19, 2004
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
1-4
Newtown Park
Feb 5, 2005
Auckland City
v
Team Wellington [+]
2-1
Kiwitea Street
Nov 26, 2005
Auckland City
v
Team Wellington [+]
5-3
Kiwitea Street,..
Jan 8, 2006
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
4-6
Newtown Park, W..
Mar 5, 2006
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
0-4
Newtown Park, W..
Nov 18, 2006
Auckland City
v
Team Wellington [+]
1-0
Kiwitea Street,..
Jan 20, 2007
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
2-6
Newtown Park, W..
Mar 10, 2007
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
2-3
Newtown Park, W..
Dec 15, 2007
Team Wellington [+]
v
Auckland City
1-1
Newtown Park
Feb 6, 2008
Auckland City
v
Team Wellington [+]
2-0
Kiwitea Street
Ah, the good old days of 4-6 scorelines.
Who played wing-half and inside forward in that match?
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That 5-3 match at Kiwitea that same season had about 5 or 6 goals come in the space of 10 mins either side of the half. Incredible stuff.
Three for me, and two for them.
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I think TW will probably get the draw. Interesting selection poser for Jacobs though. Little has to play. I dont like it when Little plays with Ellensohn. Too many balls forward come straight back. Ellensohns a bustler (or fouler) and can put it in the back of the net, but for me he doesnt get on the end of enough ball, and is too lightweight if the ball is in the air. I'd stick with P. Hal.
Birch must come back in and play with Raf, and I think Id have Corrales on the right and Wiremu or Cheriton on the left. Perhaps Patrick should start for this "battle".
Mind you, I havent seem them play away so dont know how they shape up!
What does everyone else think?
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TW were worth the win against Waitakere in the first game of the season but since then they have not beaten either of the Auckland teams. I suspect the anamoly of the draw has meant that TW have won games against the lessor teams and will come into the game with huge confidence.
I question whether easy wins are enough when City will have played some really tough games against Waitakere and will be a lot more battle hardened.
What is working in TW favour is the suspension of the two Centre Backs and the fact City have to play 3 tough games in one week, which also includes a trip to tahiti. When Waitakere came back from Tahiti they looked absolutely buggered in the last O-league game so if TW is ever going to beat City then it will be this game. Lose and they might as well not show up for the semi-final.
I question whether easy wins are enough when City will have played some really tough games against Waitakere and will be a lot more battle hardened.
What is working in TW favour is the suspension of the two Centre Backs and the fact City have to play 3 tough games in one week, which also includes a trip to tahiti. When Waitakere came back from Tahiti they looked absolutely buggered in the last O-league game so if TW is ever going to beat City then it will be this game. Lose and they might as well not show up for the semi-final.
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So any Welly fans coming up?
Three for me, and two for them.
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[QUOTE=Marama]TW were worth the win against Waitakere in the first game of the season but since then they have not beaten either of the Auckland teams. I suspect the anamoly of the draw has meant that TW have won games against the lessor teams and will come into the game with huge confidence.
I question whether easy wins are enough when City will have played some really tough games against Waitakere and will be a lot more battle hardened.
What is working in TW favour is the suspension of the two Centre Backs and the fact City have to play 3 tough games in one week, which also includes a trip to tahiti. When Waitakere came back from Tahiti they looked absolutely buggered in the last O-league game so if TW is ever going to beat City then it will be this game. Lose and they might as well not show up for the semi-final.[/QUOTE]
I question whether easy wins are enough when City will have played some really tough games against Waitakere and will be a lot more battle hardened.
What is working in TW favour is the suspension of the two Centre Backs and the fact City have to play 3 tough games in one week, which also includes a trip to tahiti. When Waitakere came back from Tahiti they looked absolutely buggered in the last O-league game so if TW is ever going to beat City then it will be this game. Lose and they might as well not show up for the semi-final.[/QUOTE]
you 'big city' lads really do like to tempt fate 
agree that this looks like a good opportunity change the pattern of results, but if we don't get the draw we need in this weekend's match, I'll be quite happy if the AC boys share your complacency going into the so-called Preliminary Final
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C'mon Wellington, i'm picking on a draw, weather its 0-0 or 5-5, as long if we get a Home Semi
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TW will win. AC to choke at home. TW to win the grand final and O-League next year.
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i got 7 bucks on w TW win that will get me $50 back, so go TW!!!!!! Is it on radiosport or anything??
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro and Wellington Phoenix, my two teams til death do us part.
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the nzfc website is usually the best bet (no pun intended)
LF1 might know if it's on any radio channels
edit - Auks team news (from Sunday Herald - link on our front page) >> Auckland have shown signs of fatigue from a heavy workload and today will be without Ben Sigmnd, Greg Ulhmann, James Pritchett and Riki van Steeden, while there is a doubt over Jeff Campbell's fitness.
tigers2008-04-06 12:02:19
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this is definitely the best opportunity for TW to beat them!!! could be a good bet today.....
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro and Wellington Phoenix, my two teams til death do us part.
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There's also doubt over Jeff Campbell's ability.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Heartbreak for Team Wellington as their seven match unbeaten run in the New Zealand Football Championship comes to an end in the most dramatic way against a ten man Auckland City side.
Needing just a draw with Auckland to secure second spot in the NZFC and a home semi final against the same opponent next weekend, Team Wellington looked to have done all they had to with the scores locked up at two apiece and the game deep into added time at the end of the match.
But with 15 seconds remaining on the clock Kereyn Jordan stole in at the back post to knock in the winning goal and secure the Aucklanders second spot in the table and the all important home advantage for next week's play off.
Auckland started the better of the two sides and went ahead in the 17th minute when Sam Campbell opened the scoring. But this is a resilient Team Wellington and within three minutes the game was level when Darren Cheriton equalised.
Auckland took the lead again when Grant Young netted six minutes from the break and took that advantage into halftime.
Raf de Gregorio had the game level again in the 68th minute when he struck a superb 38m free kick high into the Auckland net before Jordan's heartbreaker at the end.
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So Hard News and Feverish the huge wellington footy fans never made the game eh?
what a suprise!!! will we be seeing you next week or still saving for those aussie season tickets
what a suprise!!! will we be seeing you next week or still saving for those aussie season tickets
Do you know what nemesis means
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So Hard News and Feverish the huge wellington footy fans never made the game eh?
what a suprise!!! will we be seeing you next week or still saving for those aussie season tickets
what a suprise!!! will we be seeing you next week or still saving for those aussie season tickets
Yesterday, I believe Hard News was sideline at morning football watching his son, off to Petone Memorial for the first half of Petone v Miramar then dashing off over the hill to Wainui to play for his Naenae side in the afternoon (a team he organises and plays for along with two lunch time five aside teams and at least one evening indoor side). Today he was playing with his Sunday League side in the early afternoon before texting me every twenty minutes with updates from the TW Auckland City clash. He also chips in on this forum from time to time when he gets a moment.
Im not sure what Feverish did today - possibly watching one of Waterside's womens' teams - but yesterday he was at Karori Park from about 10am as Wharfies Club Captain getting the changing rooms organised and making sure the six football pitches were ready to go for opening day of the season. After taking care of that he had to get ready for his his own match at 2:30 - before reassuming his Club Captaincy responsibilities in the clubrooms.
And thats just what im aware of.
I think they do their bit and take just a wee bit of interest in football in this country too.
I tend to tolerate most of your nonsense HT - but that did bug me bc it was so childish.
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What a f**king game!!! Down to 10 men and you still can't beat us, and we even gifted you a goal just so you would get back in the game ffs!!
How come Peter Halstead has a fan club when he's so sh*t? Don't make sense to me.
Oh, and well done on 100 games HT. Top effort 
Three for me, and two for them.
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Hah, superb free kick my arse. Tamati just watched it into the net that's all. Superb pffft what bollocks reporting.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Buffy... behave.
Well done to your lot... the Ultra there ? Flights booked ?
Hard News2008-04-07 09:31:35
Well done to your lot... the Ultra there ? Flights booked ?
Hard News2008-04-07 09:31:35
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Ultra there yes. Flights booked no.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Hah, superb free kick my arse. Tamati just watched it into the net that's all. Superb pffft what bollocks reporting.
Is Tamati Williams actually up to the NZFC standard? The few times I've seen him either live or via television highlights, he seems to be culpable for many a goal...
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Comments about the game :
1. Wellington blew it by playing for a draw in the last 10 minutes or so. Auckland down to 10 men , some of their defenders were out on their feet yet Wellington decided to carry the ball to the corner flag rather than delivering a knockout blow.
2. Auckland probably at their most vulnerable with injurys / suspensions - not sure about availability of Sigmund, Uhlmann , Van Steeden next week but believe they will be stronger.
3. Williams a clown
4. Thought Wellington lost a bit of pattern when Halstead came on , although Ellensohn was disappointing.
5. Abuse towrads the referee from Auckland fans behind the goal was disappointing - club needs to do something about their so called supporters - calling the referree a f.....ng cheat is not on.
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There's also doubt over Jeff Campbell's ability.
doubt Buffy?
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Actually there isnt much doubt from what I watch. He looks good with the ball but having to get the ball and win the ball he looks lightweight. He is an All White and he doesnt hurt teams in the NZFC, is that good for the All Whites?
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i agree with aspects. he is good with the ball, dangerous at set peices, he doesnt get into many tackles, but is there any need when acfc have the ball most of the time, i havent seen him pull out of anything, so i suppose unless your looking for someone who wont create but will certainly kick someone then he isnt your man. the game time he got yesterday wasnt enough to show much, altho he slipped a couple of passes thru their defence for our strikers that looked dangerous. mcgeorge was a complete waste of space, one of the worst players in the league!!! i lost count how many times he lost the ball. salesh at left back played very well i thought, solid defencively and also created going forward, good player!!as for wlg's free kick, ref has had a complete mare with that one!
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