Gutted that this is not being televised live- was looking forward to getting down to Culling Park to cheer on Tech!
Think it is bloody poor that there is no coverage, and makes a mockery of it not being allocated to the home of one of the teams (I know East Coast Bays are just down the road from North harbour, but understand this "showpiece" of NZ Football was to be played at Nth harbour regardless- I assumed to enable tv coverage.)
4-3 to Tech, with Burgess scoring his second finals hat-trick!
Think it is bloody poor that there is no coverage, and makes a mockery of it not being allocated to the home of one of the teams (I know East Coast Bays are just down the road from North harbour, but understand this "showpiece" of NZ Football was to be played at Nth harbour regardless- I assumed to enable tv coverage.)
4-3 to Tech, with Burgess scoring his second finals hat-trick!
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it raises the question...
if the chatham cup is no longer the showpeice of nz footy, then maybe it should be played over two legs like it was in the late 80's?
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it raises the question...
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if the chatham cup is no longer the showpeice of nz footy, then maybe it should be played over two legs like it was in the late 80's?
Well then it would down to cost and time for all clubs as every match has to have two legs for the sake of fairness from the first round onwards to the final. You wouldn't want it only for the quarter finals onwards as it wouldn't be fair to the rest. They then may reconsider the entry fee as well. It would be at least $400 (or what it is now) anymore but double the cost to $800 per team and it would make the domestic season longer for the more successful clubs.
Also, if it is not considered the showpiece of nz footy then fat chance of it being played over the two legs. I can't see NZF being bothered to change it from what it is.
Personally, I would like it to be a national based competition from the outset and remove the regional competition at the beginning and mix it about. This will gives it a more uncertainty element to the competition as well as giving clubs to play different clubs that they would not be familiar with. Then this is where the two legs may actually makes better sense.
Straight away, it would mean that only the more financially stable and most competitively serious clubs will enter and make the cup more lucrative. There are so many social teams that shouldn't be in such a competition at all as they are just a waste to the more serious clubs time. Anyone who enters a team that participates in a division below the top secondary school first XI team of the region should have their head examined for blowing away $400 entry fee on 90 minutes of game. They might as well have just have a friendly game for free. IMHO.
Anyway, there should be a re-examination on the format. Get rid of the regional draw and get real more serious by a national draw at the outset. A quick drop in the numbers to rid of the bunny teams because of that change and it will be more of a showpiece from the very beginning with two legs will stimulate the competition.
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Why does it need to two legs in every round ?
A two leg final though would seem to reward the supporters of both clubs. Much better than playing one leg in a deserted NHS.
A two leg final though would seem to reward the supporters of both clubs. Much better than playing one leg in a deserted NHS.
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Agree HN. Either revamp the comp completely to include NZFC sides (my preferred option) or bite the bullet and go to a home-and-away final.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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yeah sorry; that's what i meant, final only
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Can't see that NZFC sides should be included. Asides from the timing differences caused by conflicting seasons ;
1.It is a club competition - NZFC sides do not meet that definition in my view;
2. What happens when say Auckland City get drawn to meet Central ; Hawkes bay v Napier CR , etc , all likely under regional draws.
I'm pretty much of the view to leave it alone. Draw must be more transparent - no one will convince me that the 1/4 final draws weren't rigged - the odds of all 4 Auckland sides meeting each other were pretty long. Two legged final has been tried before and whilst not a failure was not enthusiastically received.
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Can't see that NZFC sides should be included. Asides from the timing differences caused by conflicting seasons ;
1.It is a club competition - NZFC sides do not meet that definition in my view;
2. What happens when say Auckland City get drawn to meet Central ; Hawkes bay v Napier CR , etc , all likely under regional draws.
I'm pretty much of the view to leave it alone. Draw must be more transparent - no one will convince me that the 1/4 final draws weren't rigged - the odds of all 4 Auckland sides meeting each other were pretty long. Two legged final has been tried before and whilst not a failure was not enthusiastically received.
But its profile has never been lower. Something has to be changed otherwise it seems as though it will be allowed to just slowly fade away. I know of all the logistical difficulties in getting the NZFC sides included - not least the Ak City vs Central etc one that you mention - but that might be quite interesting, and the competition needs some interest added.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Why not the NZFC have their own preseason cup and then play only 14 rounds of the comp.
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I believe the NZFC needs to be over 4 rounds and run longer. 28 matches plus Chatham Cup makes up a decent number.
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Agreed. The NZFC should have started by now and should go on a bit longer.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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