Drop NZFC for National League

Drop NZFC for National League

Is it time to convert the NZFC into a National League competition along the line of the old league. Or top two teams from regional leagues based on the 7 federations go into the first year.  14 Team compition with 2 rounds.

Why? The current league is working as best as can be expected right now. Why revamp it yet again?

Maybe Drop is to harsh but other than in the national youth leagues have other centres been able to competed with the Auckland $ in something other than knock out style games.  Blew2007-06-08 21:37:25

The old National League was much better!

NZFC is the best we have had. Leave it alone.

Keep the NZFC as it is... except maybe fine Auckland City a ridiculous amount of money to try to give all the other teams a chance.

It won't be long and the NZFC will gooble up all the top players and then with a combination of, enforced rest, recovery from injury or the club transfer rule there will not be any NZFC players returning to there clubs to play. The top level of competion will be then left to the up and coming players. No it won't they to have NZFC youth competion to play in. Oh well it is only club football after ali. But soon we will be left to wonder why the premier club leagues look like the lower divisons of yester yer.  

NZFC is going OK. Need to give it more time. We need to support it more (i.e. attendance at games). Standard is OK and should improve in the next couple of seasons. The old National League was disbanded for a reason - it wasn't sustainable and it did have a transport firm as a sponsor if I remember correctly.

National League was TOBACO sponsorship and not sustainable after smoke free came in.

the bottom two NZFC teams should get relagated to the northern league and then the top two teams in the northern league get promoted.

plus the other leagues around the country as well then

That right NZFC should be top 2 teams in eah federation. This would cut FNZ $$$ and cut down the duplication of infrastructure for the regions.

Na. Na. Na. Leave it alone and let the NZFC develop under the Direction of NZ Football. We have been down the club based track and while it worked for a while in the early days of the old National League it doesn't work across the board. You just drive clubs into the old money go round and burn out multiple administrators while creating debt on a large scale. If the 2 Auckland setups are dominated by 2 clubs does that make the NZFC franchise setup a bad thing for the rest of the country? How about supporting the team in your area by getting along to all games. That would make it a hell of a lot easier for the franchise administrators. Take a look at the interview with Terry Phelan in this months Soccer Talk. There's a guy with the right attitude! Ronaldoknow2007-06-11 21:23:57

OK heres the curve ball, keep NZFC, give management to the franchises with a seat each and 1 to Football NZ. The Franchise's survival would be there own not the responsibility of FNZ. 

Sorry to put you wrong there - have edited my post to read "based on 2 clubs" which is what I meant (sometimes my keyboard makes it's own decisions). In ChCh the joint club franchise would appear to be the best option. The last time a club based national league was run Woolston?Tech put in an entry under the ChCh City brand but failed to attract decent palyers or crowds and only managed to alienate other clubs and their supporters. This is probably due to our lower population base. The previous four clubs that participated in the old National League are currently in complete disarray (ChCh United, Woolston (who have merged with ChCh Tech before they became defunct) and New Brighton are in the lower qualifying league while Rangers are facing relegation from the Matsons Premier League). Clearly football is the same as any business - it is a numbers game. The larger the potential audience the greater chance of success. Remaining popular with your fan base is the key to surviving - not whether you are based on a club or a region.

Well where have the crowds gone it not to NZFC. This is the big problem for football it is the supporters who we have lost not the players. Could it be the availability of the world game or just the change in the number of english migrants not coming in the number they us to.

That is right. Also with the change in immigration to more islanders and asians there has been a drop off in "imported" enthusiasm for the game compared to the euro invasion of the '50's & '60's that drove our game through till '82. I think this is now being rekindled as the "new" wave of migrants from Asia, Africa & the pacific slowly blend in to our culture. Look at how rugby clubs are starting to go through some of the pain soccer clubs have experienced in the past 25 years. Sport in this country never stands still, it is ebb and flow and I feel that football is on the rise as born here Kiwis start to believe that they can participate at the world level, and don't need a bunch of ex pats to tell them how to do it. We are slowly developing our own Kiwi style and growing in confidence as we do so. There will always be pain/losses and differences of opinion on what is right and what is wrong but so long as we keep supporting the game and trying to achieve at the highest level we will get there.

What ever develops within the NZFC their must always be teams and grades that are seen as an acheiveable goal for younger NZ players to aspire too.

Its good that the ex pats got the ball rolling no pun intended - but it is now up to the next generation to keep it going. We are only now finding our feet without the experience of those ex pats to know what works and what doesn't. We will get there and football will become the number 1 sport in this country.

What can we do as football fans to help grow crowd numbers?

Have more kids - go the Catholics!

Blew2007-06-24 18:01:36

yea i think that nzfc should make 1 or 2 division league so other team can het promoted to nzfc league like for ex:division 1 which ever team comes 1st 2nd 3rd thy should get promoted to nzfc and which team from nzfc comes 3rd last they get promoted to division and also from division 2 any team comes 1st 2nd 3rd get promoted to 1st dividion and nzfc will be the premier league if it happens like this nz soccer league might grow up and also good players may come and play for nzfc.

Have we got any NZFC teams signed (paided) up to NZ Football to take part yet. I beleive the sign on fee is quite substantiall, or is there a sponsor yet? 

The entry fee is $65000 plus GST. Every franchise should have that covered just from the O-League winnings alone that have been filtered through to all other 7 franchises via Auckland City's last two WCC ventures. I can recall passing a brown envelope with $58000 to WFC development manager Joe Sprangers in the Warehouse Stationery carpark in central Hamilton on the 8th February this year at around 2pm - according to my note on my mobile:-p  That was the amount of money that every other franchise would also have got. It was sent to my Te Rapa post box initially as that was the original WFC point of contact when I started the franchise.

Do Auckland do season tickets?

Yep. And they have the best atmosphere in the NZFC.

Will they still if the Ultra heads to the UK ?

When isn't the league manager on a junket. Animal from the muppets could organise a better league

McDonalds does/did the young football goal crap on tv after the news...shame they didnt put that $$$ towards the top comp in the country instead