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HBU vs Waikato

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HBU vs Waikato
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  A somewhat fortunate 2-1 win for HBU  against a very gallant Waikato team Hawkes BayUtd were worth their 2-0 haftime advantage, but the signs were there that Waikato would be a handfull with the strong wind behind them in the second period. And they were.HBU will have to improve if they are to be a genuine threat this term and Wailato will trouble  many other outfits.
 I have never been to a game before where a referee has laid a complaint to the club regarding comments hurled at him from supporters. Mr Kerr did.He didn't like being called  " A fat bastard' by the Bay Army.He was though.So after being spoken too by a club official, we dropped the 'bastard'  but increased the tempo of chants regarding the portly ones girth.We even had a whip around and shouted him a pie in the clubrooms later Hope he  appreciated it.
 We'll take the 3 points but 1 each would've been a fair reflection.
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Waikato were surprisingly compettiive, seeign it was their first game together.
 
i have posted a full rating of the waikato effort on the melville website forum, and was delighted young Marco Rojas gave such a promising showing when he got on as sub.
 
But a few napier observations.
 
I am full of admiration for the bay Army. A small hard core, but we need more of this. Keep it up! i wasn't sure who the fat bastard was at first, we haven't had a genuinely fat national league player since the era of paul Bunbury, paul Steffe, or Jimmy pamment in his pie-eating dfays.
 
 
The new napier import defender. daniel Kirkup is huge. Absolutely dwarfs Bunce. But er, I didn't think he was that good.
 
Andrew Abba, who came on as sub, looked very nippy. But I'd expected a bit more from Seule Soromon, even though he got supporters player of the day.
 
in his prgramme column, HB chariman Colin Stone said he was happy at the 2008-09 schedule, and it was "more afforable for the competing teams with compromsing the sporting spectacle".
 
"Our goal throughout the discsussions was always to act for the good of the game.  We'd rather have a two-round, eight team competition than three rounds of a six team competition, so again, we feel we've gtot he best competition ahead of us we could ask for."
 
I thought Chris Kerr did well with his reffing. His decision making was very good (tho i know Buncey disagrees).
 
 
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The answer, my friend, was always blowing in the wind.

But as American folk singer Bob Dylan would sing: "How many games must teams play before they realise keeping the ball down in the breeze is a no-brainer?"

Neither Hawke's Bay United nor Waikato sufficiently adapted to the conditions after a tenacious defensive effort from the hosts in Napier secured them three points after a 2-1 win in the New Zealand Football Championship opener yesterday.

It was far from a cohesive effort from the new-look Bay franchise and head coach Jonathan Gould was brutally honest in his post-mortem.

 
  "I thought in the second half they probably dug in a little bit more than we did. Wind was definitely a factor but it's our first game of the season and things do take a little more time at this point to get things right," he told SportToday at Bluewater Stadium, in Park Island.

Another sobering acknowledgement was the urgency to tweak "a couple of things" in an abbreviated league down to 14 matches this season.

"Even going forward I felt we weren't as fluid as we were against Team Wellington (last warm-up game) but that's what happens when you go into a game when something's on and the game isn't that easy then.

"You get nerves in the real thing and that's the levels we've got to get our boys up to when the competition's on and there's three points at the end of it," the former Scottish international said.

Conceding keeping the ball was part of the pep talk and a sensible option at the breather, Gould said it was difficult to execute under pressure.

With a stiff wind blowing almost the length of the pitch, Bay quickly discovered that too much muscle behind the ball was a futile exercise.

Resorting to some structured attacks the Bay drew first blood in the 14th minute when a well-weighted ball from midfielder Graham Fyfe found captain Chris McIvor unmarked on the right flank. McIvor ran to the line and angled the ball back to exciting Vanuatu international striker Seule Soromon, who pushed the ball into the net despite a scrambling sliding tackle from Waikato centreback Nathan Strom that only succeeded in impeding goalkeeper Jason Mann putting his body on the line.

Waikato, against the run of play, had one good chance but midfielder Shaun van Rooyen did not do justice to the cross from the left flank from Craig Wylie.

It was the hosts who went up 2-nil in the 26th minute after Olympian Cole Peverley's cross from just inside his half sat beautifully for Leon Birnie on the right flank. Birnie outpaced the defence into the 18m box to crisply place it into the left-hand corner with Mann trying to cut the angle off on the right.

The Bay defence had a Great Wall of Britain feel about it with Daniel Kirkup (ex-Carlisle United), Che Bunce (ex-Sheffield United), Wairarapa's James Oxtoby (ex-York City) and Chris Davies (ex-Welsh under-23 international) thwarting any Waikato raids.

Bay missed a few opportunities to score but it was predominantly Waikato after the breather. Steven Holloway rose above the Bay tall timber in the 54th minute to head in a cornerkick from Wylie on the right to make it 2-1.

Coach Edmonson then substituted Ben Hunt with Marcos Rojas in the midfield and the fresh legs immediately injected some impetus in the visitors' attack.

In the 67th minute Soromon's shot skew off his boot with no one to beat inside the 18m box.

But it was Gould's substitution in the 73rd - Solomon Island schoolboy Andrew Abba for Soromon - that had the Bluewater Stadium faithful roaring. The dreadlocked one had the Waikato defence in sixes and sevens with his deft footwork in the handful of breaks the Bay made.

A back heel from Abba went to no-man's land, with Fyfe mentally locked into a defensive mode 15m behind. Perhaps it was also an indication of more time to gel for myriad players but, if that's the case, then Waikato have more reason to bemoan a lack of cohesiveness, considering they hadn't played any warm-up games and it was their first game as a team.

Abba almost found the net again after his shot clipped McIvor's foot and beat keeper Mann but also shaved past the right upright to collective groans in the 83rd minute.

Try as Waikato did an equaliser proved elusive.

Unlike a relatively calm Edmondson, Bay coach Jonathan Gould seemed to have spent his energy springing out of the dugout akin to a jack in the box.

Edmondson was looking ahead to to their next "tough match" against Auckland on a new home ground at Centennial Park, Ngaruwahia, expecting a crowd of about 1000 in a carnival atmosphere after turbulent times for the franchise.

Said Waikato coach Dave Edmondson: "I think we were just a little bit naive earlier on and got caught but in the second half when we had the wind we made a big point of not relying on the wind and to keep playing football.

"We built in confidence in the second half and in all honesty we dominated but were unlucky not to get a point or even more out of it," he said as the franchise prepares for Auckland at their new ground in Ngaruwahia.

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Very well taken second goal for HBU, cole peverley looking class as usual.
Look forward to seeing more from Soromon, although he never really had too many opportunities on sunday.
Abba is a very exciting prospect, and just the kind of player you can bring on to give a bit of spark to the attack or give some tired defenders a run around.
Bay Army on song once again, be interesting to see if Wellington bring any supporters with them in a couple of weeks. Chance for a bit of banter
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Accy Stan wrote:
  A somewhat fortunate 2-1 win for HBU  against a very gallant Waikato team Hawkes BayUtd were worth their 2-0 haftime advantage, but the signs were there that Waikato would be a handfull with the strong wind behind them in the second period. And they were.HBU will have to improve if they are to be a genuine threat this term and Wailato will trouble  many other outfits.
 I have never been to a game before where a referee has laid a complaint to the club regarding comments hurled at him from supporters. Mr Kerr did.He didn't like being called  " A fat bastard' by the Bay Army.He was though.So after being spoken too by a club official, we dropped the 'bastard'  but increased the tempo of chants regarding the portly ones girth.We even had a whip around and shouted him a pie in the clubrooms later Hope he  appreciated it.
 We'll take the 3 points but 1 each would've been a fair reflection.
 
Ah the Bay Army - as original as ever.

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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Who's original these days
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 ... since I posted here, I've since learned that Mr Kerr was NOT  aware that we were calling him a 'fat bastard', more so that the word was being used on the Waikato goalie (who really wasn't that fat either but 'YOU LANKY BASTARD' just dosen't sound right).And his concearn was  because  of the presence of children within the ground. To be honest, 99% of kids have heard worse than that so I can't see the need for concearn over the use of that word.So should Mr Kerr ever read this, I now know you wern't moaning at us calling you a fat bastard, more so the use of the word at whoever we directed it to....I think you're wasting your time trying to 'stomp' its use out at a football ground-maybe  you could at Palmerston where the crowd could both agree not to utter it...eh ZIZOU ?
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Mr Kerr is unlikely to read it as his involvement in interweb forums is frowned upon and would leave him risking a banstick.

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man craig wylie is a brilliant player i cant beleive he wasn't wanted by auckland city
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Platinum wrote:
man craig wylie is a brilliant player i cant beleive he wasn't wanted by auckland city
 
 
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Accy Stan wrote:
 ... since I posted here, I've since learned that Mr Kerr was NOT  aware that we were calling him a 'fat bastard', more so that the word was being used on the Waikato goalie (who really wasn't that fat either but 'YOU LANKY BASTARD' just dosen't sound right).And his concearn was  because  of the presence of children within the ground. To be honest, 99% of kids have heard worse than that so I can't see the need for concearn over the use of that word.So should Mr Kerr ever read this, I now know you wern't moaning at us calling you a fat bastard, more so the use of the word at whoever we directed it to....I think you're wasting your time trying to 'stomp' its use out at a football ground-maybe  you could at Palmerston where the crowd could both agree not to utter it...eh ZIZOU ?

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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you dont agree?
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