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It's Italy; so, Mafia.

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EL TV wrote:

What politics? Elaborate?


Just the way the italian federation pays clubs with regards to playing time. 
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liam graham has been trialling and may have signed for AC Monza

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reg22 wrote:

liam graham has been trialling and may have signed for AC Monza

Seems to be signing with Pro Patria in the third tier, the new Lega Pro.

He's been trialling at Monza and so some websites prematurely have him at Monza such as Graham's Italian Wikipedia:

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Graham

But some reports are this week linking him with Pro Patria:

http://www.propatriaclubs.com/2014/09/possibile-in...

SEP21

POSSIBLE ASSIGNMENT FOR LIAM GRAHAM

"Liam Graham ex Monza, Vicenza and Ascoli long trial in the Pro Patria, may be registered with the tigers at the beginning of the week."

Seems to be confirmed by todays posting on a Pro Patria club news thread:

 "The Pro Patria closes the door to signings with the appointment of Vincent Melillo, born in 1986, former Paganese and Ascoli, last year in Giulianova in series D. So three new faces on defense, Gerolino, Graham and Melillo..."

Pro Patria play in the new Lega Pro formed this season, the new third tier in Italy which unites the former Lego Pro First and Second Divisions into one league of 60 teams in three groups of twenty with four clubs promoted to Serie B.

Pro Patria are based in Busto Arsizio (pop. 82,000) close to Milan. They were a Serie A team until the mid 1950's and lost the play-off final for promotion to Serie B in 2009.

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If we are talking stats, then Pro Patria has had three players who turned out for the Italian National Team in the late 40's - early 50's and they won one Serie B and two Serie C (one of which was a Lega Pro) titles.

In 1961 they were part of the Italian team which won the Trans-Alps competition which for the first two editions was contested for by Italian vs Swiss clubs, with the title going to the Nation the winning club belonged to...In this edition they beat FC Schaffhausen of Switzerland with a solid 2-1 at home, followed by a 5-2 victory across the border.

From its third edition, the title of Trans-Alps Competition winner went directly to the individual team who won the final, and not to the Country the team belonged to. More famous teams to have won this competition are:

Genoa, Juventus, Napoli, FC Basel, Monaco and believe it or not, Lazio.

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In interview says he signed for Monza & asked to be loaned to Pro Patria

http://www.issgenova.it/news/liam-graham-my-injury...

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james dean wrote:

Is that good?

so much this

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Did Hudson had a look at him? Would be a decent Roux alternative

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If he is going to do it, it needs to be very very soon.

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5 games (out of 22) for a team last in the 3rd teir of Italian football.....

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2ndBest wrote:

5 games (out of 22) for a team last in the 3rd teir of Italian football.....

But at least he's in a professional enviorment, besides Roux who else can fill the RB position? Boxall perhaps, , but there's no natural RB outside the ASBP (maybe Fenton, but he's a left midfielder so I think is a waste to use him there) and maybe this can be a solution

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Doubt it very much.

I think we'd see Tuiloma slot in at RB with these new DM's found in Europe if we needed someone to play. He's done it in all the previous age teams, so has some experience there.

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Um the last 2 posts ugh Tuiloma RB - No Fenton a left midfielder - No
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TV wrote:
Um the last 2 posts ugh

Tuiloma RB - No Fenton a left midfielder - No

umm i think you should revisit his old games and see where he played for the u17's etc and for NZ when he debuted. Definately a better option that a guy playing in the lower leagues of Italy.

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We have Roux, Boxall and Fenton who can play there. Yes i know Tuiloma played there in 2011 but seriously theres no way Hudsons playing him there. Hes a DM at a club whose coach is Hudsons mentor. Wakey wakey
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Fenton is left attack-mind midfielder, he played there in TW and in his first games at the Nix. That's why he struggles in the RB position

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He has no left foot. He played as an attacking midfielder yes but not specifically left - he switched sides during games - thats normal but specifically left ahhh no
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Argie96 wrote:

Fenton is left attack-mind midfielder, he played there in TW and in his first games at the Nix. That's why he struggles in the RB position

Credibility lost right there. He has no left foot and I specifically recall him playing for TW on the right when I did see him about 3-4 years ago. He had one of those games where you go 'Whats that guys name? Never heard of him but he can play'
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2ndBest wrote:

5 games (out of 22) for a team last in the 3rd teir of Italian football.....

And only two starts with no appearances at all since November 17 - so he 's hardly setting the Italian Third Div. on fire.

http://int.soccerway.com/players/liam-graham/18984...

His club Pro Patria are dead last with only three wins all season (28 games so far).

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1 July 2015 : Transferred to CF Lorca Deportivo (Tercera Division) - Spanish 4th Division: 360 teams / 18 Regional Groups

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1 July 2015 : Transferred to CF Lorca Deportivo (Tercera Division) - Spanish 4th Division: 360 teams / 18 Regional Groups

If permanent he's better off back in NZ

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He might just be having fun, seeing the world and getting paid a little for playing football. Many do exactly that in a wide range of sports. Not everybody harbours a desire to play at the top or represent their country.

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He even gets a big article in the Coventry Telegraph with some nice action shots:

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/fo...

Trialled with Coventry City last month apparently but Tony Mowbray felt coming from Italian football, he wasn't up to the physicality of the English lower leagues.

An article with more detail about Liam and his career and signing for Chesterfield:

http://spireitegazette.blogspot.co.nz/2015/10/welc...

Coventry City v Colchester United reserves at Ricoh arena, Coventry.
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I hope he does well there as Chesterfield and gets pinched as the cloud is one of those teams that spends a lot of time bouncing between League 1 and 2.

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almost 17 years

Liam Graham scored a goal for Chesterfield Reserves this morning:

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almost 12 years

Has he made a first team appearance yet?

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Wibblebutt wrote:

Liam Graham scored a goal for Chesterfield Reserves this morning:

Does he have dual citizenship? Looks like the Aussie are claiming him too.

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Global Game wrote:

Wibblebutt wrote:

Liam Graham scored a goal for Chesterfield Reserves this morning:

Does he have dual citizenship? Looks like the Aussie are claiming him too.

Born Melbourne.

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

Has he made a first team appearance yet?

Not yet.

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Was on the bench midweek (no minutes) as Chesterfield lost 1-2 to fellow League One side Rochdale in the League Cup.

First time in a match day squad for Chesterfield, according to Soccerway who also disappointingly have him listed as an Australian.

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make that a 1-3 loss

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I see he started last night against Wolves u23. 

Playing in League One certainly is very good. Chances of making the All Whites in the near future? Good competition for Roux, Fenton, Colvey, M Boxall... 

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Lets wait til he makes his debut before throwing another name in the mix

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

Lets wait til he makes his debut before throwing another name in the mix

Does this not garner an appearance? https://twitter.com/ChesterfieldFC/status/77067690...

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It was for the first team in the EFL Trophy. They didn't play their strongest side, but a first team appearance nonetheless.

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no, not enough...

Look at Howieson as an example... getting a game here and there doesn't mean too much. lets wait until he gets a good run in the team first.

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