Would be interested in knowing if Nix fans would actually want
their team to have the chance to participate in this years CWC (via
on O-League play-off) if they in fact finish last in the A-League.
This is not meant to incite any aggressive backlash from hardcore
Nix fans. Just an honest, hand on heart question if a
first year team that finishes last in their comp deserves a crack
at the CWC. Would be interested to hear your views.Hard
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Yes. Last only tells half the story. Our performances overall this
season coupled with the superb support from the fans has ensured
that this has been a successful season.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Play-off for the right. Finishing last in the A-League does not
mean they are worse than NZFC teams.
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Yes. Last only tells half the story. Our performances overall this
season coupled with the superb support from the fans has ensured
that this has been a successful season.
Do you seriously believe that?
Do you know what nemesis means
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Once again Ted, you're arguing with other Auckland fans... have you
clicked that you are in a huge minority yet ?
The days of the Grey and miserable owning the NZ game are gone, you've become an anachronism, a parody... you should be supporting rural Rugby in some farming backwater pretending the game isn't going under.
The days of the Grey and miserable owning the NZ game are gone, you've become an anachronism, a parody... you should be supporting rural Rugby in some farming backwater pretending the game isn't going under.
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Once again Ted, you're arguing with other Auckland fans... have you
clicked that you are in a huge minority yet ?
The days of the Grey and miserable owning the NZ game are gone, you've become an anachronism, a parody... you should be supporting rural Rugby in some farming backwater pretending the game isn't going under.
The days of the Grey and miserable owning the NZ game are gone, you've become an anachronism, a parody... you should be supporting rural Rugby in some farming backwater pretending the game isn't going under.
I could'nt care less what other Auckland fans think they have there opinions and i have mine and you keep the insults coming say what you like you are still bottom of the league what ever spin and gloss you try to put on it
Do you know what nemesis means
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Who needs to gloss on it ?
Learning year, huge crowds, a city behind it despite some challenging results, but yes, last. Happens. We go on and go forwards.
Learning year, huge crowds, a city behind it despite some challenging results, but yes, last. Happens. We go on and go forwards.
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Actually I think you will get the spoon gings to be fair. Seriously
though while the Nix have had many positives this year last is
last. No player, supporter, coach or administrator anywhere in
the world could be happy with that. It is a matter of pride and
personal standards surely.
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Yes. Last only tells half the story. Our performances overall this
season coupled with the superb support from the fans has ensured
that this has been a successful season.
Do you seriously believe that?
Yep.
Considering this year we were in playoff contention until
about Round 19 and have been far more entertaining than the
Knights, and have only conceded more than 2 goals in a match twice
all season yeah i'd say for a first season it's been pretty
successful.
Three for me, and two for them.
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"Last place" and "successful" are mutually exclusive words Buffon.
Promising, optimistic...yes, maybe, but successful, never. I know
of no individual involved in top level sport in any capacity who
would finish last and be satisfied, let alone claim success?
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Yep it's been a success so far!!
Crowds, excitement and a credible team that was put together
in a hurry. 
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
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There has certainly been many positives in the season and as much
as any thing was the ability to get a club off the ground in such a
short period of time. The people who have turned up each week for a
11,500 average is fantastic.
If there are that many football followers in Wellington where were they before the Phoenix.
However on a straight comparison basis the club has one more point than The Knights got last year and have conceded 35 goals compared to 39 last season. However, a lot of people have enjoyed it and both the town and the players are positive.
The trick is being able to build on that next season. There are limited spaces available in the squad as most players were signed on two year deals. That may have been a practical requirment in that they may not have come if for this season with out the commitment of next.
If there is ony 4-5 places available then it is going to be difficult to make giant strides forward on the park as there are areas of weakness everywhere (except goal keeper).
To judge the quality of the team you have to ask how many of our players would get signed by one of the top four teams if they were available today. The answer to that is frightenly few - Smeltz , Lockhead, who else?
So to build on this year's momentum will be a massive project. Can it be done we will only know after the event.
For comparison purposes look at the buzz around Auckland in 1995 when the Warriors first entered the league. They were competitive in the first season but it all went pear shaped for a few years and they had not disimilar problems to that of The Knights - player ability, coaching standards and dwindling crowds.
If The Phoenix can avoid those issues and be more competitive on the park then the support will continue.
If there are that many football followers in Wellington where were they before the Phoenix.
However on a straight comparison basis the club has one more point than The Knights got last year and have conceded 35 goals compared to 39 last season. However, a lot of people have enjoyed it and both the town and the players are positive.
The trick is being able to build on that next season. There are limited spaces available in the squad as most players were signed on two year deals. That may have been a practical requirment in that they may not have come if for this season with out the commitment of next.
If there is ony 4-5 places available then it is going to be difficult to make giant strides forward on the park as there are areas of weakness everywhere (except goal keeper).
To judge the quality of the team you have to ask how many of our players would get signed by one of the top four teams if they were available today. The answer to that is frightenly few - Smeltz , Lockhead, who else?
So to build on this year's momentum will be a massive project. Can it be done we will only know after the event.
For comparison purposes look at the buzz around Auckland in 1995 when the Warriors first entered the league. They were competitive in the first season but it all went pear shaped for a few years and they had not disimilar problems to that of The Knights - player ability, coaching standards and dwindling crowds.
If The Phoenix can avoid those issues and be more competitive on the park then the support will continue.
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Congratulations on the vote lobbying, Helen Clark wants you!
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Yes. Last only tells half the story. Our performances overall this
season coupled with the superb support from the fans has ensured
that this has been a successful season.
Do you seriously believe that?
Absolutely it's been a hugely successful season for the Nix.
The club was put together after most of the other teams in the
league had assembled the majority of their squads
already. The first season for the Phoenix was never about league
position. It was about putting together the building blocks for the
long term future of the club. This first season has been incredibly
successful. They have been entertaining and competitive and the
crowds have achieved very respectable numbers. Terry Serepisos,
Ricki Herbert and the squad can be proud of the first season,
regardless of how the final table falls out after this
weekend.
I can�t wait for
next season.
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The Nix were last as i sort of expected, but they were competitive
to the end and were in playoff contention until the 19th round in
the most tightest A-league season to date.
With the possibility of two more Australian A-league teams from Gold Coast Galaxy and Townvilles Northern Thunder plus 3 other teams from Sydney, Melbourne and Tasmania looking for future entry if they are financially capable. Each of these teams would have more squad building time to start their first season than the nix had this season.
Truly, having only scraping a team and administration plus getting a true owner in Terry nine months ago was far superior than what the kingz and knight groups have pulled together. The crowd numbers are superior, the on-field competitive nature was comparable to kingz first or second NSL (an inferior competition) season. To be able to pick up Beckhams soccer show was crucial clinch to secure more crowd numbers. When there is consistent high A-league placings improve so would the crowd numbers. But to be at the bottom and yet have such high crowd numbers despite the novelity of being the first season and the drama of retaining a NZ team in the A-league has made the Nix as the club that would never give up.
Personally, I would rate the bottom placing result as being an OK. if they were able to grab two place into 6th or 7th in an eight team competition it would be a first season pass. A 5th or 4th or 3rdplace would be better that thought first season and 1st or 2nd place would be close to fantastic first season.
The overall off-field conduct by administrators, staff, players and crowd was superior to what Kingz and Knights had. Even our Australian counterparts have expressed greater positivity about the Nix, even those who didn't think we would scrape up a team. The truth is that we have secured admiration from Australia that we didn't have before. That was always a sticky point, they would have never expected the season that we have against experienced A-league squads. 90% of the Australians expected that the Nix would be either bottom or 7th with few wins and maybe a couple of draws. They didn't want us there. Most experts expected Queensland Roar to be at the bottom in 8th and CCM just above us in 6th (both based on the previous two season results and treads) and look them now at the top of the table this season. Melbourne Victory struggled losing a couple of big stars, Sydney FC had a very poor start with a new coach and style, Perth Glory lost their way, three of the most historically strongest football hotbeds of Australian were shaken up.
In a successful and most tightest 3rd A-league season run by the FFA, the Wellington Phoenix DID NOT look out of place in the competition.
With the possibility of two more Australian A-league teams from Gold Coast Galaxy and Townvilles Northern Thunder plus 3 other teams from Sydney, Melbourne and Tasmania looking for future entry if they are financially capable. Each of these teams would have more squad building time to start their first season than the nix had this season.
Truly, having only scraping a team and administration plus getting a true owner in Terry nine months ago was far superior than what the kingz and knight groups have pulled together. The crowd numbers are superior, the on-field competitive nature was comparable to kingz first or second NSL (an inferior competition) season. To be able to pick up Beckhams soccer show was crucial clinch to secure more crowd numbers. When there is consistent high A-league placings improve so would the crowd numbers. But to be at the bottom and yet have such high crowd numbers despite the novelity of being the first season and the drama of retaining a NZ team in the A-league has made the Nix as the club that would never give up.
Personally, I would rate the bottom placing result as being an OK. if they were able to grab two place into 6th or 7th in an eight team competition it would be a first season pass. A 5th or 4th or 3rdplace would be better that thought first season and 1st or 2nd place would be close to fantastic first season.
The overall off-field conduct by administrators, staff, players and crowd was superior to what Kingz and Knights had. Even our Australian counterparts have expressed greater positivity about the Nix, even those who didn't think we would scrape up a team. The truth is that we have secured admiration from Australia that we didn't have before. That was always a sticky point, they would have never expected the season that we have against experienced A-league squads. 90% of the Australians expected that the Nix would be either bottom or 7th with few wins and maybe a couple of draws. They didn't want us there. Most experts expected Queensland Roar to be at the bottom in 8th and CCM just above us in 6th (both based on the previous two season results and treads) and look them now at the top of the table this season. Melbourne Victory struggled losing a couple of big stars, Sydney FC had a very poor start with a new coach and style, Perth Glory lost their way, three of the most historically strongest football hotbeds of Australian were shaken up.
In a successful and most tightest 3rd A-league season run by the FFA, the Wellington Phoenix DID NOT look out of place in the competition.
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Wed still be loads better than the other clubs
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o-league will be very good for us to get more games and to be ready and trial and yada yada
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the nix in O league can only be good
they must be better than nzfc teams
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