NZF have put a reveiw of competitions, including the NZFC, in their strategic plan. They also acknowledge the need for player pathways and it is fair to assume that a National League of some sort is important for the good health of our game. So let's help them with some supporter opinions...
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Keep it as it is. Club based is just an excuse for people to have a pissing competition at the expense of the rest of the club.
It's bad enough at the top level here without adding the National League to it.
It's bad enough at the top level here without adding the National League to it.
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Great another review - how about just letting the NZFC evolve into something strong. Its been 4 years and we are going to see another review that may change our league. How can any fan or sponsor stay loyal when the team you support gets changed again.
Leave it alone, improve it by all means, but lets not change it. Compared to the old National Leagues - this is miles ahead in terms of money, imports and club sponsors.
Leave it alone, improve it by all means, but lets not change it. Compared to the old National Leagues - this is miles ahead in terms of money, imports and club sponsors.
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Just out of interest who voted for summer playoff series?
Three for me, and two for them.
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Keep it -its good
just reduce the number of Akld teams
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I think that they defnitly should not lose an auckland team - they should make another one. There are so many players in Auckland another franchise could get put in place.... possible in the north shore? Where else could take a new franchise to boost it up to 10 teams? Gisborne? - they use to have gizzy city in the national league. Or maybe New Plymouth? they use to have New Plymouth Rangers in the league about 12-15 years ago?
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Where else could take a new franchise to boost it up to 10 teams?
Bay of Plenty would be my first choice.
I'd like to see another team in Wellington, perhaps a Porirua-Hutt Valley team based at Porirua Park, create a bit of a Capital Derby and put a second NZFC team in the immediate area of the Phoenix.
I would like to see a third team in Auckland (prob. North Shore) though to water the top two dominance down a bit.
robbwatson2008-09-04 17:32:14
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The NZFC is doomed once we are kicked out of the WCC. I predict that it will then collapse back into those inbred little club feifdoms that proliferate in this country.
As it is at the moment, the NZFC is unsustainable. There are two semi-professional clubs who, aided by WCC money have resources that only one other side, Wellington, can hope to match, and that is only because it is slipstreaming on their A-League side.
What have the provincial sides done since the NZFC started, apart from whinge about Auckland, how much it costs, how they can't do this, and can't do that, and put out sides who would struggle to match it in either of the Northern Federations premier leagues.
What they seem to be admitting is just there isn't the talent, the coaching structures, the player base, the fan base, the sponsorship, never mind the underlying passion that you actually need to get out and support a proper club side in the provinces. For crying out loud, they can't even maintain rugby teams with all the advantages that that sport enjoys.
The irony is that New Zealand used to have a proper national league, with well supported semi-professional clubs, with big crowds, but that was in the early 1970s.
In those days they had four or five strong Auckland clubs, a strong Christchurch club and a strong Wellington club - with Gisborne City which is an anomaly, and ironically could still probably put out a decent, well supported team - and that was it. It fell apart when they started adding teams from areas that could not afford, and could not support a national leaguel club.
That is the only future I see for the game. Forget the Federations involvement, they are just political wannabes who usually haven't a clue.
Make the national league stand on its own. Have four strong clubs ibn Auckland, where fans will turn up (just look at the crowds at Waitak-ACFC games) - add a team on the Shore and one based at Bill McKinley, keep Wellington - but for Christ's sakes change that godawful name, give Christchurch another chance.
You need two more teams to make up the numbers and I'd throw an NZFC national development team with SPARC money in Palmerston North or Waikato (where they have universities and good facilities) and then it would be a choice of Hawke's Bay or Gisborne - where their Russian may be able to buy them a team.
Dunedin is too far and too poor.
But it is not looking good, and those who think it is alright and doesn't need fixing are dreaming.
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Rob, re BOP....
Bay of Plenty is struggling.
Back in the 80s it had a host of northern league clubs: Mt Maunganui, Tauranga, otumoetai, Kawerau, Ngongotaha, Rotorua Suburbs, Rotorua City etc.
Now it has just one: Tauranga City United. And it is in danger of dropping out of the northern premier league, it looks inevitable it will be involved in relegation playoffs.
They have a couple of good players: the lad Ian Stringfellow looks handy, and Hindrich hahn is still capable of summer league, but overall their ranks are relatively thin.
I suspect they woukld also struggle administratively, though their facilities have good bones, and could be resuscitated with a bit of tender loving care (the place is a bit tired at the moment).
By the way, word is Aaron Scott has thrown in his lot with ----- ooops, I have a pal who tells me it might queer the deal to say, and because he's with a summer league "entity" he could get my post completely removed if i do so. :)
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Stop causing trouble or I will set the Scotsman in question on you.
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NZFC Revue? Great.... where can I get tickets for that? Bryan Little as Antonio/Duke Frederick, Graham Little as Prospero/Duke Senior... anyone?
Oh, "review". I'll get my coat 
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NZFC Revue? Great.... where can I get tickets for that? Bryan Little as Antonio/Duke Frederick, Graham Little as Prospero/Duke Senior... anyone?
Oh, "review". I'll get my coat
Bloody intellectuals!
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NZFC Revue? Great.... where can I get tickets for that? Bryan Little as Antonio/Duke Frederick, Graham Little as Prospero/Duke Senior... anyone?
Oh, "review". I'll get my coat
Actually, I'd like to see Graham Little as Charles the Wrestler and perhaps Grant Young as Falstaff.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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