Sepp Blatter
FIFA to reconsider Oceania's place in Club World Cup
7 hours ago
TOKYO (AFP) � FIFA president Sepp Blatter said Wednesday that the football governing body is to reconsider Oceania's inclusion in the Club World Cup after another poor performance in this year's tournament.
"We have to make sure to protect the competition at the highest possible level," he told reporters here. "If you want to have a FIFA Club World Cup, we need to have professional clubs playing."
New Zealand's Waitakere United, who called themselves "semi-professionals," were demolished 3-1 by Iran's Sepahan in a preliminary play-off at the tournament of continental champions featuring AC Milan and Boca Juniors.
"This year it was evident that there is a difference of the level of competition and this is one matter that will be immediately discussed in the (FIFA) organising committee first and then by the FIFA executive committee."
Oceania teams have been seen as rank outsiders in world football, especially after Australia switched their allegiance to Asia after the 2006 World Cup.
"Definitely, since Australia left Oceania, we have a problem at least at the level of club competition," Blatter said.
In the inaugural 2005 Club World Cup, which merged the traditional Europe-South American Intercontinental Cup, Sydney FC lost narrowly 1-0 to Costa Rica's Deportivo Saprissa in their opening game.
Auckland City FC were defeated 2-0 by Egypt's El-Ahly last year.
And this was followed by Waitakere's defeat this year.
Under the current format, the southern continent is allocated only a play-off with a fifth Asian country for a berth in the Club World Cup as well as the World Cup of nations.
Waitakere coach Chris Milicich earlier said his players in the New Zealand league are "a lot of semi-professionals," including school teachers, corporate managers and builders, many of whom played professionally abroad earlier in their careers.
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So 3 -1 is getting demolished. I wonder what the semi-final scores
will be in the competition? If they are worst will they just play a
straight final next year between Europe and South America?
A dog with a bone :)
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I agree, but the way Waitak played for 60 minutes just gave ammo to
Blatter, who is trying to impress on the likes of Europe and South
America, the status of this tournament. Inept, embarrassing
displays like Waitak's make him lose face, and also hurt our
chances of not only continuing in this competition, but also in the
other world cups. I'm pretty sure this will hasten the demise of
Oceania as a separate confederation. Look for us to get put in a
rejigged Asian zone, probably as a sub-conference.
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Don't worry sep.
You'll see the class of the Phoenix in a few years! hang in
there!
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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That's the point my Celtic cousin (Hartson am byth). They won't get the chance. The NZFC were put on notice last year about the way ACFC performed. Waitak's was no better if not worse, and I seriously doubt the Nix will get the chance to be Oceania's representative. The one ray of hope here might be that they will perhaps persuade the Asian confederation to let an Oceania team into their champions league. Then the Nix could qualify through there.
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if your dumb enough to join a competition and sign a clause which
says even if we win we will forgo the prize...then why are
you whining now?
the phoenix had their chance , the aussies where desperate and
needed nzs market ...they should have barred up and put that
proviso in....they didnt ,game over...
the sooner Oceania finishes the better...less trips for the
baiters (oops left out master before that...sorry B)at least
in asia well get games that mean something other than a
subject for anoraks the world over to spout stats at the restof
us!
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Hi Hostie... wondering how long it would take the lap dog to follow
his master.
You'll be pleased to know you are mostly arguing with other Auckland fans on these subjects. Good luck with that.
You'll be pleased to know you are mostly arguing with other Auckland fans on these subjects. Good luck with that.
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not Hostie twat...see you sat....I look forward to it.
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if your dumb enough to join a competition and sign a clause which
says even if we win we will
forgo� the prize...then
why are you whining now?
We didn't sign it. The Phoenix did, and we disagree with it and that is why we are complaining.loyalgunner2007-12-14 15:54:07
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ok so I am no football expert but I think NZ football overall needs
to go back to basics - e.g. our ability to touch a ball where we
want it (i.e. at feet) or to string a number of "decent" passes
together or panic when under pressure and to just boot the ball
upfield (i.e. lose possesion) is REALLY REALLY frustrating!!!!! -
some of these basic fundamentals (and I am sure other people will
think of other ones) are what we should focus on, from the early
years and then maybe we can start to compete at any level - if this
is the best we can produce at a domestic level then our game will
never grow and we will always struggle.....I think we kid ourselves
when we win through Oceania that we think we can compete....maybe
in time...
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Hope it doesn't happen. Poor standard or not, no club should be
forfeited the chance to be competitive, no matter how realistic the
chance may or may not be. Even if they don't automatically qualify
and have to prove worthiness of entry - as the All Whites have to
do for to get to the real World Cup.
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Just put the Nix in the O leauge, winner of that then qualifies for
Asia. Sign it off with Blatter that we keep the 1.5 mill and he
keeps his tournament with high profile clubs that truly earn there
way there, and three home and away games with asian teams is better
than a one off. see easy
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[QUOTE=Baiter]Hi Hostie... wondering how long it would take the lap
dog to follow his master.
Can assure you baiter Uncle Loz is not hostie!! ask your niece she'll tell you!!
but he does make a good lap dog
Can assure you baiter Uncle Loz is not hostie!! ask your niece she'll tell you!!
but he does make a good lap dog
Do you know what nemesis means
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NZFC should only get a half spot to qlf for the O-League as there teams a f**ked. Honestly why would they cry about having to play-off against the Nixs, Its like they want to keep there retarded standeds and never have to improve there game - so more or less they can just rock up to japan for a easy pay cheque without having to try and play football.
Look at Auckland City? All the money they recieved and yet they still play on a 3rd rate pitch/field and no upgrades to there team sheds etc.
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To be fair, they have just spent $60K or $80K on their pitch at Kiwitea St. I agree with your sentiments on the standard. The NZFC clubs should have to play the Nix to get through - thus giving them the incentive to improve their standard to one that can at least compete in that CWC.
Sydney showed they could compete when they played.
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Seriously I would love to see that game. If the Nix beat a Waitak
or Auckland then all good but when will they play the games and who
will be out of season or at what stage of the season. Would be a
huge game and what would happen if the Nix lost the home and away
series. Could you imagine that.
If it gave us a real competitive game between two NZ teams then I am all for it.
If the Nix said they will forgo the $500k and take whatever they won then I am sure the NZFC teams "might" say ok. Wouldnt hold my breath though.
If it gave us a real competitive game between two NZ teams then I am all for it.
If the Nix said they will forgo the $500k and take whatever they won then I am sure the NZFC teams "might" say ok. Wouldnt hold my breath though.
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Seriously I would love to see that game. If the Nix beat a Waitak
or Auckland then all good but when will they play the games and who
will be out of season or at what stage of the season. Would be a
huge game and what would happen if the Nix lost the home and away
series. Could you imagine that.
If it gave us a real competitive game between two NZ teams then I am all for it.
If the Nix said they will forgo the $500k and take whatever they won then I am sure the NZFC teams "might" say ok. Wouldnt hold my breath though.
If it gave us a real competitive game between two NZ teams then I am all for it.
If the Nix said they will forgo the $500k and take whatever they won then I am sure the NZFC teams "might" say ok. Wouldnt hold my breath though.
So true, If the Nixs lost then the better(Or deserving) team/s
go through pure ansd simple.
Im sure the Nix can coupe with the A-League fixtures and
O-League games.
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kiwitea substandard ....ya learn something every day!
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NZFC select XI vs The Nix.
Home and away match (at Caketin and North Harbour
Stadium).
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NZFC select XI vs The Nix.
Home and away match (at Caketin and North Harbour
Stadium).
It would be a very sad day if that happend, How unfair to the
players of the NZFC team that won the title to be told "Sorry what
u have done/did all season means nothing we are selecting a team
from the 8 other clubs."
Maybe the NZFC title winner should play off against the
Chatham Cup winner, The the winner then plays the Nixs.
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3-1 and were out for gods sake ac milan beat boca 4-2
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3-1 and were out for gods sake ac milan beat boca 4-2
lol "for gods sake"? the scoreline means absolutely NOTHING in that game. as has been said it was the manner in which they lost. From a specatcle perspective in a major Fifa Tournament it was an embarrasment. The goals they let in were quite Pathetic, Keeper letting it go through his hands, Defenders managing to give away a Penalty advantage and let the player score in the same play before the Penalty was even needed. Hell even the goal they scored was ridiculous. The scoreline is unimportant.
Imagine if we'd drawn AC Milan, European champion skill against a team of amateurs who would be scared out of their wits playing one of the best teams in the world containing the best team in the world.. it would have been awful
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If the Nixs are aloud to playoff for a spot in the O-League this
should raise some incentive to add another NZ based A-League
team.... If so then the standards would surely rise and who knows
but it could form a basses of having a true Pro league in NZ
without having to play in the A-League.
The people behind the NZFC have done a great job with the
setup, One thing is still missing is that each year the supporters
have dropped off, In fact for some of the semi pro teams u are
lucky to see 50 people watching a game. I heard more about a foot
in a sock being washed up on shore then who's gonna win the
NZFC.
Even the Chatham cup gets more public exposer and its Armature
thxs to leaflets & Uni student Radio.
NZFC have the right to represent NZ in the O-League, NZF have
the right to choose whether that team can perform at a completive
leave in the O-League&CWC and if it sees differently then NZF
has the right to set a higher standard, As we have seen with the
NZOC still in debate for allowing a Womens/Mens football team into
the Olympics If they have no chance of gaining a medal or at lest
making the 2nd round.
NZF want to improve the standards by having the Nix playoff
against the NZFC winners, If it doesn't happen FIFA will see
striate through the NZFC and have it forfeit the next CWC, Also NZF
would take the blame for not lessening and would not be taken
serious again.
convict2007-12-20 02:59:17
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We have to be realistic - the Nix wouldn't beat Sepahan or the Reds
or anyone else. All they would do is make it more of a spectacle.
The winners of the A-league (sydney) couldn't beat the reds and
left the AFC early. Sepahan and the Reds won through to the final.
There is no gaurantee the Nix wouldn't be totally exposed as per
Waitakere and Auckland. It just might look a bit prettier than
anything.
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3-1 and were out for gods sake ac milan beat boca 4-2
lol "for gods sake"? the scoreline means absolutely NOTHING in that game. as has been said it was the manner in which they lost. From a specatcle perspective in a major Fifa Tournament it was an embarrasment. The goals they let in were quite Pathetic, Keeper letting it go through his hands, Defenders managing to give away a Penalty advantage and let the player score in the same play before the Penalty was even needed. Hell even the goal they scored was ridiculous. The scoreline is unimportant.
Imagine if we'd drawn AC Milan, European champion skill against a team of amateurs who would be scared out of their wits playing one of the best teams in the world containing the best team in the world.. it would have been awful
true i didnt see the game that they played in but i saw the
final im just angry that the phoenix arent in it
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NZFC teams can NOT compete in the World Club Championships. They
simply aren't good enough. If, within two years, Oceania can't
prove it's worth in that tournament, we will be kicked out, so it
makes sense to let the Phoenix join the O-league to participate at
the WCC. Some of the money the Phoenix receive would go to NZ
Football, the NZFC teams, and to the club itself. So, in the long
run, if the Phoenix were able to keep Oceania's place in the WCC
open, NZFC clubs could receive a far greater financial boost than
they could from NZFC teams representing Oceania at the next two
WCC's before being kicked out.
Hope that made sense
Hope that made sense
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you really are missing the whole point
ITS NOT JUST ABOUT THE F&*%IN MONEY!!!!
its about rewarding teams for high achievement develop football in this country
(something that Phoenix supporters are always claiming there team is doin) so that supporters and club members can take pride in there team and aspire to compete in top tournaments
how are clubs and players going to raise the standard on and off the field if they dont get exposed to the highest level possible
ITS NOT JUST ABOUT THE F&*%IN MONEY!!!!
its about rewarding teams for high achievement develop football in this country
(something that Phoenix supporters are always claiming there team is doin) so that supporters and club members can take pride in there team and aspire to compete in top tournaments
how are clubs and players going to raise the standard on and off the field if they dont get exposed to the highest level possible
Do you know what nemesis means
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lol are u serious? ofcourse its about the god damn
money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as much as players will want to play the big teams like Milan, no one in NZ wants too see one of these NZFC teams go and get humiliated year after year at a major Fifa event.
Tell me how exactly its motivational for players and supporters to go and get killed by a professional team in the world of Fifa? the money is the only good things they get out of it, and publicity for all the wrong reasons. Has there been a good article about this? show me, cause all i see is stuff about Oceania losing our rights to play because of poor displays on the pitch,
Motivational? give me a break
Edit* o and i would find it more motivaitonal to play better to get a pro contract at the phoenix tbh than once a year get beaten by a pro overseas team.
muso2007-12-21 22:20:19
as much as players will want to play the big teams like Milan, no one in NZ wants too see one of these NZFC teams go and get humiliated year after year at a major Fifa event.
Tell me how exactly its motivational for players and supporters to go and get killed by a professional team in the world of Fifa? the money is the only good things they get out of it, and publicity for all the wrong reasons. Has there been a good article about this? show me, cause all i see is stuff about Oceania losing our rights to play because of poor displays on the pitch,
Motivational? give me a break
Edit* o and i would find it more motivaitonal to play better to get a pro contract at the phoenix tbh than once a year get beaten by a pro overseas team.
muso2007-12-21 22:20:19
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