Southern Football (incl Southern United) (Part 1)

northern beat us 3-2 in a disgrace of a game... cost us the league...horseshead212009-03-12 20:43:21

I'm sure they feel the same about ginger goalkeepers eh Mercer

not even close perry

Im pritty sure getting killed 4-2 by Cavvy in the lst game cost you the league...

probably true....

So who are your 8 teams to make the cut ?  

You could have teams like Mornington & Grants Braes substituting the out of town sides, it might not work out every week.

8 TEAM league has merits, Dino102009-03-13 08:39:29

Queenstown are one of the most competitive teams other than the top 3 in the league every time you go up there you can except a sh*t fight to get all 3 point�s if you look back to last year they Caused both Tech and Caversham troubles but seem to drop easier games that really they should win. Personally id keep both Queenstown and Southland and then�.

 

Tech

Cavvy

Roslyn

Northern/Uni

Queenstown

Southland

Green Island

Mosgiel

 

And GB�s to amalgamate with a club above,Problem being there's not any strong enough players to join Tech and all other clubs are to far away??

thetruthnz2009-03-13 09:17:07

I guess all will depend if theres a South Island league? Would have to say the quality of the SPL would be pretty poor without first teams of Cavy, Tech & Roslyn

It's a pitty the quality players from the 3 teams arnt split up over the league but that would just never happen

is Fleming off to coach Canterbury Utd?

https://www.soccerotago.co.nz/spl2009/pre-season/hester_refs.html

Otago have been idiots for not giving him a go so why not?

fleimng best coach in dunedin ripped off by otago united

I agree with the 8 team comment, but maybe other possible options could be explored. Teams such as tech cavy and roslyn contsantly finshed high on the table because they have the best players in the league. There is no doubting this. more often than not these players are Dunedin locals or have lived in Dunedin or surrounding areas for a wile, Burgess, Coburn, Scholer, Little ect This allows coaches to build a squad around their top line players as they know in most cases these players will play every year. It is unusal for a player that has come to Dunedin for Uni to make the starting line up for any of these teams, and "reasonably good" players end up playing fletcher cup or for a lower ability team and loose interest in the game.

Hot off the press - Kennedy2009-03-13 14:02:18

thetruthnz2009-03-13 14:31:37

im not talking a points system, mayb no more than three NZFC plaers at one club, that would be easy to implement. Just thoughts, but if something is not done then Dunedin football will continue to struggle and Otago United will continue to be a joke

Uni players have always played in these teams if they're good enough - what league in this world doesn't consistently have a "big 3 or 4" - I think that yes the league needs to be shortened to 8 teams so that the players we have aren't filtered too much but saying that we need to dissect a club because they have done a good job recruiting and bringing up players is a bit harsh. Not to mention no team would then compete any higher then the SPL - we would get beat quickly in the Chatham cup and South Island Champs - Then Dunedin Football would truly be floundering.

thetruthnz2009-03-13 15:37:54

and sure tech made the chatham cup final, but that form isnt shown in the NZFC is it, Otago united are never going to be any good if your only picking players from 3 clubs in dunedin and combined with phelo as coach its a loose loose suituation

So you think filtering all the clubs into mediocre teams who only get to play mediocre games against each other never progressing to a chatham cup quarter final is going to raise the bar down here making for a better NZFC team? That sounds ridiculous if you ask me......8 teams might work though.

Club sluts?? I have to agree with Truth on this one - just look at Caversham, I don't think you will find many who would leave for anything - bar 1 maybe.

I think with the players we currently have + 3 quality imports and you would have a good competitive team. 

Ryder would leave for a new pair of Mecurial's other than that none

thetruthnz2009-03-13 16:15:55

Back in 2002, after the National league had finished most of the Tech squad split up & went & played for various clubs & the league was pretty competitive. But its really up to the clubs out of the top three to up their game, I'm not sure that any of those clubs have the ambition to win the league to be honest, apart from Mosgiel in 05.

With Otago Utd, theres heaps of problems but the one thing that does my head in is player recruitment. With Phelo's connections, Utd should have some of the best imports in the league. OK Utd don't have the budgets like Waitak & Auckland, but surely Phelo knows some old team mates that would be keen to come out to nz on a footballing holiday.


I think Rab Smith actually has a good point where SPL clubs should try & get at least one import each, there must be thousands of players of the quality of Frank Haggerty that would jump at the chance to come over here from the UK.

league predictions

Ever the optimist,

Not sure Dino, John Wilkinson is involved with Northern this year, he's always done pretty well with his teams so they could surprise.

Agree re Southland, Cresswell is useless

little is a club slut... he ditched roslyn for a few k. Rhys henderson is welcome at roslyn im sure they could find him a spot... to say he will not start for cavy is shocking... he should start ahead of mike smith anyday

giddy up the horseshead!!!

shemus ryder is a club slut...  he wouldnt make the roslyn squad