Southern Football (incl Southern United) (Part 2)

Here's some footage from the  "shouldn't be anywhere near national league" reel

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That's not Caversham being good btw, imagine Auckland City...

Was Collier not good enough?

I think you've picked the only bad game he's played all season on that one. As for imagining Auckland City... you know he's played in the same team as those players for many years now right...? Not his fault Mosgiel slowly destroyed him. He's off to Caversham anyway. From a keepers view - the first one unmarked header from a nearpost throw, the second one again an unmarked header and a checked run form Caversham blocker, 3rd one - good first touch the rest is a calamity. Haters gonna hate but any good defensive coach will point out those fudge ups before they get to the keeper.

I couldn't give a shark either way anymore. I just want to be able to train through the summer - don't care if I play or not - just want to train. Anyone know who wrongin is? cheeky twenty for a legit name - seriously has issues that need sorting.

Can you confirm that you're off to Caversham next season?

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Jesse wright. Ill pm you my account. Mike called you ZG?

Craig Doble

cannot seriously compare franchini and hogan? Franchini could walk into any national league side in the country. Vision to burn! 

Hogan and ridden have a great target in jackson. Doble himself would look good in behind Tom. 

Southern are in for an extremely tough season.

1. They've lost their only goal threat in Jackson and the only other guy with any goal scoring pedigree in the national league left, Coldicott, will likely go down injured after the first round/not make the starting lineup.

2. Franchini is gone and there's no one even close to being able to replace him, Hogan? Really? are you having a giggle? 

3. Attwood and McCormick leaving, while not league beaters, will certainly not help with depth.

At least they have a keeper who can keep the score down in Batty, he's going to get a lot more work than any one else in the league.

As of right now (Question marks beside players who may may even choose not to play this year):

Batty

Howard--Joy?--Jude--Ferguson?/Cotter

McClennan--Ridden--Ryder?--Brook/L.Jackson

Stewart--Coldicott?

Bench: Dijsktra, Ferguson/Cotter, Brook/Jackson, Rickerby?, Hayman/Day?/Hogan

Cotter will be lucky to be selected in the squad, let alone starting before Ferguson. Brook could be in?

Collier is a pretty decent player, hope he sticks around for some National League.

might have vision but doesn't have the heart for a battle

think it's one of the lads in his pic, Darren or Marcus, not sure which one

I think it's unfair to post those clips if you aren't going to post the clips of him doing some good things as well - which I have seen him perform this season.  Is he a NL player?  Well keepers are a funny breed and seem to come into their prime in later years.  He has some quality behind him and plenty of experience in the NRPL - including a title with Bay Olympic I understand.  He's not at Batty's level in my opinion.  He's a flapper and he looks a bit podgy too.  But he's a good leader and a better organiser of the backline than anyone else I've see in the league this year.  I think he's a good number 2 for Southern.  And Cavy will be licking their lips if he's going to move.  Imagine him behind that defensive unit.

Cotter is a touch of class! Surely can't be denied a spot in the Southern United team, arguably the best full-back in the league.

He should be in the squad but he need to pull his head in.

That he may be. One thing I don't understand if this is correct.. How can you have the two "best" fullback in the league and the "best" CB but conceed 40 odd goals? I think you need to look further for your best full backs,no? Or are Mosgiels centre backs just that bad that they let the likes off Cotter down? Or, are the other centre backs in the league just that good that they been covering their average full backs? Love to know everyone's thoughts  

 

Plenty of good full backs on the left, Ferguson , cotter is class and also that Reid guy from GI is good

I think you can answer a couple of your own questions there. Regardless of a couple big losses to the 2 top teams in the league, Cotter does his job and does his job well and if we're talking about making the Southern squad how does Mosgiel recieving a couple of drummings effect his chances as he his still a player of high quality. Tell me, have you played with or against him?

The statistics paint a picture of the level of football here in Dunedin

Top = Dunedin Tech, Caversham

Then = Mosgiel

Then Green Island, Roslyn

Then =Northern, University

You cannot discount Cotter or Green given their results based on a 'drubbing' by 2 teams in the league. Mosgiel should have Cotter, Green, Franchini (though not playing for Southern) involved in the Southern United squad or extended squad), possibly Coldicott also but I am not convinced he is fit enough.

They have prattley and ferguson so they're covered on the left 

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Cotter needs to pull his head in?? He has his head screwed on more so than 95 percent of the population. Absolutely shocking call. Word is cashmere tech are already on his case for next year when he moves. And zane green has been destroyed by a team that finished third and made steps in the right direction? Should be character building having to stomach some losses and a chance to prove himself and lead a group of kids. Of course he could have gone to caversham and tech and looked good. Is that what it's about? Certainly not at the level above. For a group of young guys who are only going to keep improving especially with a bit of quality guidance and training they certainly ruffled feathers

Cashmere have Canterburys two left backs so he could be in for a tough time. Yea the ruffling of feathers went well. Piss people off and then get a footballing lesson is a better way to describe it in my opinion.

Young George McCall from Dunedin Tech has showed promise in the last couple of weeks, great touch, great vision and a great finisher. Could be one to watch in 2016

Aaron Burgess to make his southern united return in the wake of TJ leaving?

Got to be kidding, Can't even score a penalty against the University Coach in a 16-0 win. Hope to see a new gaffa at Tech next season, Burgess doesn't know a thing about coaching

Rumour spinning about that Dunedin Tech No.6 smokes darts before games

Since he was 12

JW, honestly you're ruining this forum and have been for weeks. Give the Mosgiel/Zane Green bashing a rest, post after post of the same crap from you and Wrongin is turning this into a terrible read. They ruffled feathers then got several hidings - surely that's enough? Can you not let their goals conceded vs Cavvy/Tech speak for itself and maybe contribute to this forum with some posts that aren't negative in some way about Mosgiel or a Mosgiel player?

What a response to their social media presence. You're just as bad and seemingly never going to move on. As a side note, wrongin posting videos of a player making perceived mistakes is woeful stuff, particularly from an anonymous account bagging a guy who posts under his real name and fronts up with some guts.

From a neutral perspective this forum has become an ugly, tiresome read dominated by a couple accounts that ruin the thoughtful posts of everyone else.

Either you're not on Facebook or you're also under an anon account Eric. Practice what you preach. 

I think you'll find a lot of people aren't on facebook.

Southern United first team should be (using available players)

                          Batty

Cotter      Joy     Hogan     Ferguson 

Brook       Connor  Ridden McClennan

             Stewart       Coldicott 

But it will be

                          Batty

Howard    Joy     Fitzpatrick Hayman

McClennan Ridden Neavason Ryder

                  Stewart  Rickerby 

No Hayman,Rickery or Neavason

Agree about brook 

Hogan isn't a centre back, Connor doesn't complete enough passes to play in the middle of the park and Coldicott with his current form will be no threat to any defender in the ASB Premiership.

Hogan could be a very good one, Connor was starting in the midfield up at Central, his quality can't be questioned. Agree with current form for Coldicott but if you look at the other strikers in the league, who would you have?

I have to agree with Rata tat here.  I think Tom is much better out wide who gives a shark where some bloody jafas played him - he's played for years at right back and right mid and is proven at the NL level there.  And Hogan could be a good centre back? Well he could probably be a good astronaut too if he wanted.  So yeah let's experiment with him at CB in the NL for a the first few games shall we?  FFS. I think his Cavy team-mate Jude is just a wee bit better at CB. I think Hogan is actually a better choice than Tom in central midfield. Colicott is top drawer -but so many buts are attached to him these days.

Hogan could be but would take a while for him to adapt, yes Connor has bags of quality and experience so probably deserves a starting spot somewhere in the line-up. Hard decision with not many top strikers around, wouldn't go for Rickerby only scores goals against the bottom 2 teams in the league, generally can't hit a barn door so wouldn't back him for Southern. Would be better off throwing a young gun up top maybe the likes of Kiore, L Jackson or Rahan Ali? 

I think you're on the money again Rat.  Young guys with pace and no fear scare the snot out of defenders.

An import will play up top