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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History

Yeah but of the 8 players they lost, only 3 were getting game time and 2 of them as subs... Not really that much of a loss.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 13 years ago

Will be needing a good match report for this weekends game as I will be out of town..

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over 13 years ago

Otago to pinch the win

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over 13 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Yeah but of the 8 players they lost, only 3 were getting game time and 2 of them as subs... Not really that much of a loss.


The loss of Ryan Thomas really loses the main point of creativity from the side, and it certainly hurts the depth of the team. I just reckon for this week it might be a bit too much to ask for some players to produce on their first appearance.
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over 13 years ago

It's only 1 player missing from the team that won last game and should have won by more..Ryan Thomas is a big talent though..

The other Chilean  alexi looked usefull last game maybe he will take Ryan's place...


we only sing when were winning
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over 13 years ago

Robbie Greenhalgh is no slouch...

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 13 years ago

Haven't see him more than once or twice but he has a good scoring record in the Northern League, sometimes that can be very deceiving however, Nathan Palmer etc. But definitely will be a better option to score goals than some of the players Declan put out.

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over 13 years ago

it will be interesting to see who else waikato bring in over the transfer window

steven holloway maybe?

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over 13 years ago

that Pacific Park team at Roslyn was decent too eh NatPevin

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over 13 years ago

What club in Dunedin could be looking for a first team goalkeeper for next winters premier comp?  

So any club looking around for a gk may want to let it be known on here. 

I will pass on details if the player moving does in fact go down after christmas.



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over 13 years ago

After watching Waikato beat Manawatu a couple of weeks back its clear they are a talented bunch. They will be no pushovers and it would be foolish for the lads to think that winning last week makes them certainties this week. all they have to remember what happened when the were favourites last time against manawatu. Can't go this weekend due to work commitments so I'm relying on you guys for a good match report.

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over 13 years ago

Scottie Rd wrote:

What club in Dunedin could be looking for a first team goalkeeper for next winters premier comp?  

So any club looking around for a gk may want to let it be known on here. 

I will pass on details if the player moving does in fact go down after christmas.




Caversham (Little), Roslyn (Evans), Varsity (Brazilian?) and Dunedin Tech (Walker) have keepers who would be hard pressed to be shunted from their starting births.
Green Island (Think one of them is training with the national league group) and Mosgiel (James? - think he may be overseas?) had a few different guys play in goal last season.
Northern and Braes would be a shocking call if the lad is any good.
I would normally vouch for Caversham but with Little & Flaws there he'd be playing thirds most weekends.
Best bet would be one of Green Island or Mosgiel.
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over 13 years ago

Bad News wrote:

NatPevin, being a Roslyn stalwart of many years, what's been your favourite team to grace Ellis Park / Old Caledonian over the years?

the 1984 Championship side with Gribben, McConville & Bacon Buttie Man was nice, also the 1993 side with Bardwell, Carr, Duncan, Fleming(s) McGarry & Marshall was class but for me the 95 team with the additions of Foy, Keogh, Boylan, MacDonald to the 93 lot.

2003 was alright but not up there with the previous teams


You are a bit older than me if you can remember that '84 side - I recall the sides from the early to mid 90s a bit, but as a young fella I didn't spend a lot of time watching games.

Anyway back to the future - we need 3 pts this weekend to keep the top-4 dream alive.  All the bookies have us as favorites, so it must that we're going to win.  I'd like to see Coldicott and/or Hancock back in the starting lineup - then we have a chance at scoring more than once.  And Waikato are in the mood to attack - I'm pretty well informed on that front.  So I'm going for an outrageous 5-2 win for us.

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over 13 years ago

NatPevin wrote:

You are a bit older than me if you can remember that '84 side - I recall the sides from the early to mid 90s a bit, but as a young fella I didn't spend a lot of time watching games.

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Reg they were great, great days.  It was fantastic football because it was action plus every second - on the ball and off the ball.  A lot of those players wouldn't get away with half the stuff that went on now though would they?  I mean the name calling, the spitting, the testicle grabbing, snot and blood game it was.  There was magical football in there as well - I recall it well.  But we are looking through the spectacles of nostalgia too much if we think it was that much superior to what we have today - IMO anyway.

so you can recall the Rothmans league well but you were also a young fella early to mid 90's?
getting sloppy Nat
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over 13 years ago

5-2?? That is outrageous… I don’t think otago united could
score 5 if they had messi upfront…Will
be very interesting to see if Regan gets his spot back in the team. If he does
where would you put Tristan?? For my money ferg and TC are looking sharper than
him at the moment and you cant drop Big matt and and Tim Horner….Could be some
tough decisions for RM



 

 

 

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over 13 years ago

Poor old Tristan didn't offer much on the wing last week did he?  Not that I blame him.  He also got a sharp shooting chance, but fiddled around with that as well - someone like Regan would have just belted it first-time.  On the other side of the pitch Ryder was galloping up an down, making the by-line, and getting the odd cross in.  We need a balanced attack and Ryder's pace on both sides of the pitch - ie Regan IMO.  I like the look of Connor, Joy, Horner and Prattley at the back to be honest.  Stick Ferguson on the bench IMO -  he's a freaking liability on the ball and he picks up cards like they're going out of fashion.  Prattley is all class on the ball and is good enough not to foul players.

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over 13 years ago

Ryder is as slow as a snail.I think his running style makes him look quick

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over 13 years ago

Bad News wrote:

NatPevin wrote:

You are a bit older than me if you can remember that '84 side - I recall the sides from the early to mid 90s a bit, but as a young fella I didn't spend a lot of time watching games.

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Reg they were great, great days.  It was fantastic football because it was action plus every second - on the ball and off the ball.  A lot of those players wouldn't get away with half the stuff that went on now though would they?  I mean the name calling, the spitting, the testicle grabbing, snot and blood game it was.  There was magical football in there as well - I recall it well.  But we are looking through the spectacles of nostalgia too much if we think it was that much superior to what we have today - IMO anyway.

so you can recall the Rothmans league well but you were also a young fella early to mid 90's?
getting sloppy Nat

Not sure what you mean.  I was a young fella in 84 and watched some games in the 80s, but not a lot. I think you are confused with the placement of my comma.

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over 13 years ago

Big call to drop Ferg after his match in the weekend. Yeah he gave the ball away in the first 20 minutes but he also made 2 or 3 goal
saving challenges at the back. Also first clean sheet of the season, I wouldn’t be changing my back line if I was RM. On another note where is James Goven. I believe he is worth a chance. Scored so many goals in the SPL( even with a Roslyn side which couldn’t really get the ball to him) and yet he hasn’t been given a sniff. Id try my luck at another club if I was him.




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over 13 years ago

It would be a big-ish call I guess, but if Tristan had been playing left back he would have made those goal saving challenges as well I think.  I will try to get the low-down on Govan. Is he still training with the squad even?  The problem he has now is that even he he gets a chance he will be rusty.  One thing is sure in my mind, we won't beat Waikato by sitting back like we did against Auckland, Waitakere and Wellington - we'll need some concerted attack.  Cossey is no mug by the way - he will have watched our defensive system on video a thousand times and figured out how to unlock it for sure - and targeting the trigger happy Scot is one sure easy way of doing that.

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over 13 years ago


Yeah fair enought Nat, who ever your going to leave out will probably feel hard done by. IF the scotsman got left out hed be straight down to the pub I imagine. Yeah your right, Govan will struggle to adjust i think now being 6 games into the season and all, he must find it hard to not even be given a chance and yet Jude seems to be given one each week. Think Otago will pick up a draw this weekend- 1st win hangover will be the thing that stops them

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History

Ferguson might pass better with a few beers in him.  And Jude's a Cavy boy remember, so RM will want to give him whatever game time he can or risk losing him for the winter season I'd imagine.

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over 13 years ago

NatPevin wrote:

Bad News wrote:

NatPevin wrote:

You are a bit older than me if you can remember that '84 side - I recall the sides from the early to mid 90s a bit, but as a young fella I didn't spend a lot of time watching games.

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Reg they were great, great days.  It was fantastic football because it was action plus every second - on the ball and off the ball.  A lot of those players wouldn't get away with half the stuff that went on now though would they?  I mean the name calling, the spitting, the testicle grabbing, snot and blood game it was.  There was magical football in there as well - I recall it well.  But we are looking through the spectacles of nostalgia too much if we think it was that much superior to what we have today - IMO anyway.

so you can recall the Rothmans league well but you were also a young fella early to mid 90's?
getting sloppy Nat

Not sure what you mean.  I was a young fella in 84 and watched some games in the 80s, but not a lot. I think you are confused with the placement of my comma.


what games did you watch in the 80's?
"There was magical football in there as well - I recall it well." what period do you "recall well"? you said you were a young fella  early to mid 90's? the old Rothmans sponsored league ran to 87 btw 
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over 13 years ago

Sheesh Bad News you after my phone number or something?  I said I recalled well the magic football in the old national league (and I do - it was bloody fierce for a guy my age to see those players at eachother and it left a big impression on a wannabe player) - I don't recall specifically mentioning the ROTHMANS national league, but there was a cigarette sponsor back then (early to mid 90s when Rosyln were national league) I'm sure because I remember seeing the signs - someone else must have said Rothmans in the thread you so diligently dug up. Good job detective, but if you want to figure out who I am just look at my Avatar and have a think.

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over 13 years ago

And I didn't say I was a young fella in the early to mid-90s (I know how bloody old I am!) I said "you are a bit older than me if you remember that '84 side......but as a young fella I didn't spend a lot of time watching games".  You are confused by my punctuation.

Sorry this is really boring for the rest of you lot  - I'm being stalked.  End of thread for me anyway - too much spooky stuff Bad News.

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over 13 years ago

Roslyn were never national league my friend, they were involved in the "Winfield Super Club" when it was spilt in 3 regions, surely you'd know this? being a Roslyn man & all.

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over 13 years ago

All this Roslyn man knows is we played National League against the likes of Miramar, North Shore etc in that comp - my memory's not that bad!  I think you are right - there was a Southern part to the comp (which I'm sure we won) then the play offs.

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over 13 years ago

yeah the playoffs went national after the regional stuff, things didn't go to plan a year later in 96, can't remember what happened but everyone left the club, you should know all the details with what went down?

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over 13 years ago

I think it was $$$ issues BadNews -sensitive topic sometimes.

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over 13 years ago

yeah that somebody ruined it for everyone by pulling the sponsorship

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over 13 years ago

Said it would be 5-2 to us.  2-0 down at half-time its all ripe for a famous comeback.

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over 13 years ago

What's the game like any standouts...sounds like Waikato have had 3 chances and scored 2 !

we only sing when were winning
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over 13 years ago

Well done Waikato - a change of coach has done the trick for you for sure.  Maybe we need to do the same - something has to change that's for sure.  What a total embarrassment for us.  There can be no excuses for that result - I wasn't there but please don't blame the refs or bad luck or anything.  You can't concede six goals to Waikato and not be the laughing stock of the whole comp.

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over 13 years ago


yes what a embarrassment, It's very clear sitting on the sideline watching every game that Otago play that the coach has to go, how can you continue playing Aaron Burgess?? he has done nothing in eight games, Aaron dosen't have the legs now for national league. James Govan should have been playing from game one up front with Joel. The midfield today was a disgrace....Morgan Day should be starting ahead of Sam Mepham. The Coaching team along with adviser Neil Mckenzie have to go...its now a joke...follow Waikato, replace the coaching staff with a team that what results, want the best players on the field in the right positions, i am so angry. Replacing Aaron today with five minutes to go....what a joke....replacing Sam who missed three chances with 10 minutes to go....another joke.

Come on Otago United Board, show some leadership and get your coaching staff right and don't take Neil Mckenzie on as coach as his record with the milk cup boys over the years is just as bad as whats happening with Otago United.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History

Knowledge I was thinking pretty much the same thing.  I'm so bloody angry right now.  Bringing Govan on after 81 min is just a huge insult to the guy.  I've been moaning about Burgess forever now - but the coaches are scared of him and don't have the balls to bench him.  I can understand them wanting to try Mepham at the start because Day was rubbish against Wellington, but what's with Ridden on for Da Costa (who was injured I guess)?  Ridden just isn't close to the right level, so it should have been Day that came on surely?  Oh that's right, RIdden plays for Cavy!  I have some inside info from Waikato about they way they were going to attack us today. They felt we could only defend when our backs were against the wall (ie Auckland, Waitak and Wellington) but if we tried to play openly they would expose the holes right through our back four.  And they did - the way we are defending is going to cause this particular class of 2012/2013 to have the worst defensive record ever.  We've conceded 20 goals already - in 2006 we only conceded 25 and that was from 21 games!  The only positive I can see to today is that Tristan at least didn't play centre back and he scored - well done him, but he must be bloody furious.

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over 13 years ago

What happened? Sounds like i missed the right game. were we that bad or was Waikato that good? Pressure certainly on Murray and Duncan now, but in saying that if they were to be stood down i dont know who would be called up to take the position? Sounds like burgess was non-existant again and Govan not given enough time. I understand alot of the blames falls on the coaching staff but at the end of the day its the players on the mark who arnt stepping up. Whats happened to Coldicott? has he fallen out of favour or is he injured because he hasnt been in the squad for 2 weeks now?

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over 13 years ago

I dont have any problem with the Otago back line as i think in general they are a very good unit, they have to work three times as much as everyove else as the midfield and some forwards are not doing their job at all, i agree with you NatPevin ridden looke totally out of in the midfield, The midfield were just rushing passes, no contral whatsoever...man im still angry lol

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