Waikato FC (where's your Fallon gone...)

Waikato FC (where's your Fallon gone...)

What the fu.....?

Oh dear... there is going to be a little Norwich explosion in Hamilton.

That's a HUGE call.

No, that's a bad call.  The guy really is a bit of a disgrace, why just last year he threatened to "take me outside to the car park and punch my face in" after I made a few choice words in his direction at a Gisborne Miramar game.  This is after he had (a) gone ballistic and sworn at the match officials and the 4th official, including accusing them of being cheats  after one of his players was red carded fairly (b) sworn at the miramar bench, including the physio and the assitant, plus some of the players (c) complained to anyone that could listen that Miramar couldn't beat a team of 18 year olds.  He reacted when we reminded him that the player who got a double for Miramar was himself 18 (Keiichi).  The guy has no class, and really has no place in football in this country.  I genuinely thought we were moving forward in the NZFC but no,  the obsession with '82 will never die until another NZ football side can get somewhere.  God I hope we make it to South Africa, just so we can move on!

Mmm. . . So how long you think he will last?

Lets draw lots.

I say after 15th game of the first season, we will hear grumbles of "sack him" from the local fans and the club officials.

I think that its a move in the right direction for Waikato football.  You lads are all having a go at him for showing a bit of passion about the game.  Waikato have done bugger all in the last few seasons and maybe the players there need a coach like Kevin to get them going and to get them fired up for the games?  They have got some good players in Hamilton and with Kevin at the helm maybe he will be able to attract some other top players in the way of foriegn imports (unlike dale williams for waikato this year) that will bolster their squad and get them into the top three. 

This team could turn it around this season and throw a spanner into the mix of the top three.  Stu Jacobs did it this year with Team Wellington, so whose to say Fallon wont with Waikato?  Dont go writting him off just yet lads - lets see how he goes 1st.

After the first game you will start to hear people calling for his sacking AWB.  Even before it.

Unfortunately Feedback, I have too long a memory to believe that big Kev is the solution to any problem.

Im not saying he is the solution to any problem - he was the solution for the U17's and he was the solution for Mount Albert.  He got stitched up at the Kingz and I hope that he does get a fair go at it in the Waikato. feedback2008-05-28 12:09:32

Just a question... but are you ex-MAGS ?

Just want to understand where you are coming from.
Hard News2008-05-28 12:13:20

I haven't done ANY research...but if he's coaching MAGS again - at least we'll see a LOT more youth in the NZFC - should please a lot of the Goalnet subscribers! And if that indeed is the case (Fallon still coaching there) expect MAGS to only get stronger too - there are some quality young players across Waikato.

Shocker!!!

Well I was thinking that after the 15th game, the club wants to sack him and they will be asking Roger to caretake for the rest of the season.

Maybe Roger Wilkinson will apply for the Youngheart Manawatu coaches job for the coming season.

I just want Fallon to get a fair go... thats it - hes a winner and hes not nice and thats what NZ football needs - winners who dont give a s*it about anything but winning and that is him in a nutshell

That didn't answer my question, but point taken...

I agree give him a fair go. I would rather have seen an up-and-coming coach but can anyone tell me who that up and comer might actually be?

All the coaches in the Northern Premier seem light years behind the likes of Jacobs and Milicich so who could Waikato have got in except for someone like Kevin Falloon. No point asking for something to occur if it isnt possible due to a shortage of coaches.

You can win things without alienating fans, players and media etc - Jones and Milicich did it and no one would call either of them soft.

As a Waikato Supporter can I just say - let's see what he does before attacking the man.

I dont know the coaching triumphat at Melville arent too bad and have seemed to get the results away from home

Ok, someone has brought out the U17 thing.  I'm not going to decry the performance of that side but let's look at the facts.  They lost to a good states side when they were completely fired up beyond belief in front of home crowds, lost poorly against Uruguay and then beat Poland in a game that meant much more to them than it did to the poles.  They didn't have to qualify and they were probably one of the best prepared sides ever to enter a FIFA tournament.  Ok not bad...but it was 9 years ago.  james dean2008-05-29 00:07:45

I agree with JD above. Fallon doesn't stand out as having a fantastic record. Yes, he has won a few things, but given enough time (i.e. 20 years or so coaching) you're going to win something eventually, even if it is with school boys. . .. .  Does Kevin Fallon consistently take teams to win competitions? No.

Sacha NATHU - Olympic and Team Welly
Julius KOLK - Think he's in the air force or is that Perez ? - Below NZFC if at all
Sanjay SINGH - Below NZFC if at all.
David RAYNER - Below NZFC if at all.
Tony LOCHHEAD - Phoenix    
Cameron KNOWLES    - Portland - US-League
David MULLIGAN - Port Vale
Jeremy CHRISTIE    - Phoenix
James PRITCHETT    - Auckland City    
Allan PEARCE - Waitakere    
Brent FISHER - Sweden 3rd division        
Steven TURNER - Below NZFC if at all.
Daniel TRENT - Below NZFC if at all.
Neil JONES - Last I heard, coaching at the University of Santa Barbara and not playing.
Ricky HILL - Below NZFC if at all.
Karl BUDGEN  - Below NZFC if at all (Hamilton Wanderers)        
Sebastian PEREZ - Think he's in the air force or is that Kolk ?     - Below NZFC if at all
Gary BRIDLE - Packed it in after the tournament.

The other thing to note about that side is that most of the preparation was done with Wynton in charge.  Fallon was a late change.
Hard News2008-05-29 10:48:08

I agree with Feedback.  Fallon just tells it like it is.  Sure he ruffles some feathers along the way, but he's honest.  If he thinks someone's done well he'll let them know, if he thinks they've had a shocker he'll let them know.  I think it'll be good for NZFC and to see some passion put back into the game here.  If half the players played with the intensity he coached with then I'd come out to more games. go on hansie!2008-05-29 15:59:33

Surely you can't defend that list Hansie, that is a genuine result of the treatment of Fallon that the majority of that side don't even play football at all.  And if you ask them why, he's a big part of the reason.  Passion isn't about shouting at people (refs, players, supporters, media, anyone within earshot).  Do you think that ACFC, TW and Waitakere, the three best teams in the league don't show passion?  The fact is Kevin Fallon has had just about every coaching job in NZ and was has that achieved, it's time to move on.

I still have not had an answer on whether those cheering the appointment are all ex-MAGS pupils.

He did more than just shouting, he threw a few punches in the backroom including one at his fellow co-coach at half-time because he wanted to switch both wingers from left side to right side position and vice versa in an untested strategy at a losing Chatham cup game.

He doesn't like to hear another people's opinion and thinks that he has all the answers. When something goes wrong, it goes very wrong because he won't listen to another and is likely to deck someone, especially if that person is his peer or better than him. There are plenty of stories about very good players, coaches, assistant coaches and officials who left football because of him over the years.

He's not a coach, he trains with thuggery. A real short term solution. If it wasn't for John Adshead, I believe that half the 1981 All Whites team could have walked out due to the attitude, he brings. I think that Richard Wilson was unable to GK any games in Spain because Fallon had a problem with him. It was probably due to the fitness regime that Richard usually takes the WC squad had clashes with what Fallon wanted.

Anyway whatever it was. . . a leopard doesn't change their spots.

A brilliant trainer, but terrible coach. There is a difference.

I played for Fallon and i would sent my worst enemy to him to be coached or anything. "If it swims like a duck eats like a duck walks like a duck its a duck..."

crap coach but who really cares about waikato anyway? bobboltontawa22008-05-30 14:39:45

People in Waikato, maybe? Like the people in Gisborne did?

Me.

Yup. Roger was invited to reapply as well.

The same things is currently happening to YH Manawatu. All coaching and managerial positions are advertised with the current coach and staff welcome to apply again.

why are so many people against it then and not the waikato board?

Dunno, maybe they have seen his Anger Management Certificates?!? AllWhitebelievr2008-05-30 16:15:30

the upside could be a new chant for team welly when waik visit