Wishes for the new ASBP season

Here are my wishes for the upcoming summer national league.

*  Someone tells NZF that it still exists.

*  Waitakere and WaiBopalulu get covered stands at their grounds, even if only temporary.

*  New Zealand's indifferent football fans actually turn up to watch top local talent.

*  Someone drags a TVNZ producer to a game.

*  Some of the Yellow Fever extend their interest to bolstering TW crowds.

*  Everyone in NZ football suitably appreciates the massive effort of ACFC again winning the O League and keeping the ASBP alive.

*  Can this be the last season without a much needed third Auckland team.

 

I agree with all of your points except the self-felating one about ACFC.

+1 and LOVE the Waibopalulu moniker. Catchy. 

What massive effort?

It comes down to one game against Waitekere or as in previous years against far weaker island opposition.

The reason the ASBP is still alive is down to the hard working folk at the franchises outside of Auckland who spend hours upon hours of thankless work trying to attract funding in order for their teams to pay the entry fee each season. Without these people ACFC would not have a league in which to exist.

 

+1

Started the flame wars in July. Early this year...

And on the subject of flames, and in particular going-down-in them, is the news I hear about Waitakere Utd true?  Badly in the red, couldn't pay players, Marshall not reappointed, Krishna and some of the brighter lights off to ACFC....

Interesting Nat. Whats the sauce lineage on this...

 

I don't think Krisha fits into the ACFC style to be honest. I would be interested in the ACFC regulars (and lets say for a second that this is true) on their take on having Krishna.

Ramon's preference is for a couple of these guys: see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYZmagbUXtY

They should fit in nicely.

Quite right !! ... to get to that final game requires no effort , skill or ability..... Hence the huge swathe of clubs that have accomplished it !
Your insight is as good as your keeping Sir !!

And your ignorance is just as bad.

Auckland City making the final shouldn't be seen as an accomplishment as much as an expectation. And asking for thanks just emphasizes the arrogant and self-righteous attitude of ACFC fans.

 

Quite right. How about NZF threatening to take all internationals to Auckland if folks don't turn out for the national league? Hahaha! That would require NZF to take note of one of your other points and actually remember the local league.

IGNORANCE OF WHAT ?

I can recall when ACFC didnt make it and the Scum slipped up ...no nice cash handouts for your hardworking folk then eh !!

Back in your box , you ungrateful whiney person .....

PPS I personally wouldnt require your thanks if Id just dragged you out of a fire....  tho why Id have done that defeats me totally....

Fair point and I take my hat off to you.

Actually a huge effort goes on behind the scenes by dedicated supporters of ACFC to keep it such a competitive franchise. It just doesn't happen by itself. Surely it's a benchmark other franchises should aspire to rather than be accused of being arrogant. That's why I think ACFC should be appreciated for what it has achieved.

Be sad if true because we need a second competitive Auckland side. Thought Marshall did a good job last season.

As for Krishna, Think I'd prefer Nikolic but won't be surprised if the Fijian flier fancies a crack at the CWC in City colours.With Chino gone I imagine a few ASBP strikers are sending in CVs. 

As Trueblue has hightailed it to Los Angeles he asked me to start stirring the pot early.

Really we should all be thanking the degenerate gamblers of NZ, without whom none of this would be remotely possible

Absolutely ...and isnt it great that Mr Key and his friends are making it easier for them !

Actually FU BLU, you should be worried that the new pokies at Sky City will suck people out of Trillion Trust venues.

I actually agree with much of Bluemagic's original list above. In addition to NZF paying more attention to the league let me add that they specifically look at finding a more sustainable funding model than relying heavily on the current distributed pokie funding approach. Even if that means working with a single pokie trust to bulk fund the league.

Im hoping for ...a shorter season

                       ....worse management

                       ....less publicity

                        ....fewer crowds ( esp at fred taylor paddock ,cos  when Im in a field in the country , I like to be ALONE in a field in the country  ...)

                        .....a friendly face at Morroccan customs ....

fixed.

 

This is my new favourite thread.

Articulate supporters with too much time on their hands.

Its a Kiwi team , people care about !

Trolololol

Hmmm ,.... well , yes.....but of course !

you can't post here without an auckland vs waitak argument breaking out

you guys should organise fisticuffs

anyway, hopefully waitak doesn't sink.  what's left of this league needs to be moving upwards

Been done ....long since , we're over that now ....

Actually that's not a bad idea. All the pokie trust money could be pooled and distributed equally amongst the franchises which would be a boost for the struggling ones. Provided NZF is kept from grabbing some of it for themselves. 

However the downside is the franchises who make the biggest effort and bring in the trust money would be effectively subsidizing the ones who don't put in the same effort. Wouldn't the temptation then be for the smaller franchises to just ride on the coat-tails of the more successful ones? The end result would be a diluted league with the strugglers doing better and the top franchises downsizing.

There's also the danger that forcing ACFC, the most successful money-raiser in the ASBP, to substantially spread its income would make it harder for the club to mount a serious O League campaign. It's a loss making enterprise putting out a good O League side and competing in the CWC. If that's hampered further then there's the danger of the whole ASBP missing out on the vital O League prizemoney. 

What's needed is a serious injection of funding as prizemoney in the ASBP. Then the franchises are rewarded by effort.

In the same way attention in the ESPL is centred on Man U, Man City, Chelsea and Arsenal rather than Wigan Athletic or Norwich. Success breeds interest. Also ACFC is about to compete in a major Fifa tournament for the third season in a row.

I also hear from good sources that Waitakere are in financial trouble . this is despite getting over $800k in funding

The reality is that the league needs ACFC or Waitakere to win the O League to help fund the other franchises. That would be different if NZF invested money in the league but that's not going to happen with VanHuttum in charge

It's a catch 22situation, you want all franchises to be competitive but no one has the financial or player resources to compete with the big 2

Auckland are a well run franchise but I assume there operating budget is between $750 k to $1 m. Compare to Waikato and Otago which is approx $150k- $200 k, you just can't compete . It's not a fact of getting more funding becuase are limited funders in both those regions

You've got a valid point Bluemagic but I think to only so far. What if it was any other team in NZ not named ACFC that won it, would that make a difference? The reality is, we would like an NZ winner even if they are from Timbuktu United from blue fuck nowhere.

 

That does not distract from your point that you are right that there is an injection required but then, the kind of money needed (lets say 1m/year) what does a sponsor get in return for that. And here we go back around in a circle again :o)

Marshall quits scum

Step up Danny Hay

Interesting as to who would touch that job. Mili got the freeze and they were not accommodating of Emblen. The money has gone and Marshy has walked.

Candidates- Hay, Bazely, Fallon, Knowles, Gertzen.

Bolter - Hobson-McVeigh

Likely - Tuua (he coaches City)

Bazely more likely. He's already well in there.