Liverpool Thread - Premier League Champions* 2019/20
By Rory Smith - Daily Telegraph
This summer just gone, I bought a car. I don�t want to reveal the manufacturer, but it was one of those old, revered badges that always make you turn your head on the road. True, they�ve not produced anything desperately brilliant for the last 20 years or so � other than one model which overperformed completely despite being tested against more expensive motors � but there�s still a lingering respect, a residual gleam to the name.
Anyway, I got this car on the cheap, to be honest. It had been going really nicely until the previous summer, 2009, and had actually seemed to be getting better with every service since he�d bought it in 2004. It was running beautifully a year ago, the guy who sold it to me told me. Firing on all cylinders. Literally, if a metaphor can ever be literal. It was going faster than pretty much anything else around it and with an effortless grace, too. Moved up through the gears really nicely. Still wasn�t the best car around, but a bit of tweaking in the engine and he�d have been flying, though definitely not literally.
The problem was that, last year, he�d had to get some parts exchanged. He�d not had the money to go to the official dealer � which are always overpriced anyway, he said, and he was spot on, or at least he would have been if this wasn�t a metaphor � but he�d had to change the fuel injection, because it wanted to bring its kids up in Spain, wasn�t a fan of high tax rates and they�d had a few disagreements anyway. He�d bought a new one, a fancy Italian one, but he wasn�t quite sure where it would work and how soon he could get it fitted. He�d upgraded the driver side rear tyre, too, but that seemed like a sensible move, what with the homegrown regulations the DVLA had brought in.
Sadly, though, it didn�t quite work. When he first drove the car after coming back from holiday in 2009, it spluttered a bit when he turned the ignition on and it just couldn�t get going. Every time he thought he was getting somewhere, a piece fell out, or broke, or tore an adductor, and it started struggling again. He said he�d made a few mistakes along the way, too, including telling some of the more important parts that they really should start behaving like important parts and taking it to Reading, while he had a bit of a habit of driving through potholes.
So I bought it off him. I replaced some of the parts, too, though I kept hold of the most important ones, even if one had to leave because its wife couldn�t settle here. The ones I bought were all of my own choosing, though, even if I did accidentally buy two fanbelts but forget to mend the steering wheel. The guy who sold it to me said it maybe wouldn�t be able to get up to 100 miles an hour without major, expensive surgery, but that it should certainly be capable of going fast enough to get it to Europe, though probably not the nice bits. Now, though, it just won�t go at all. It�s barely moved for the last couple of months. I�ve driven it very badly, none of the parts are working and I�ve put a couple of them in the wrong place. The passenger side rear tyre, for a start, is completely bald. It�s a diesel engine, but I�m running it on petrol, just to see how it goes.
Yet, to be honest, I think it�s the previous owner�s fault. I mean, how can I expect to drive it well when it wasn�t perfect in the first place? If he�d left it in a better state, I wouldn�t have had to buy all those new parts, which just don�t work. True, he wouldn�t have sold me the car, but that�s by the by. Of course, it�s a bit of a puzzle why a car that could do 70mph last year can only do 19 now, but that strikes me as being because of the changes he made two years ago, not the ones I made this summer, or the way I�ve put the car together. Definitely. It�s his fault. I�m doing the best I can, under the circumstances, really.
This summer just gone, I bought a car. I don�t want to reveal the manufacturer, but it was one of those old, revered badges that always make you turn your head on the road. True, they�ve not produced anything desperately brilliant for the last 20 years or so � other than one model which overperformed completely despite being tested against more expensive motors � but there�s still a lingering respect, a residual gleam to the name.
Anyway, I got this car on the cheap, to be honest. It had been going really nicely until the previous summer, 2009, and had actually seemed to be getting better with every service since he�d bought it in 2004. It was running beautifully a year ago, the guy who sold it to me told me. Firing on all cylinders. Literally, if a metaphor can ever be literal. It was going faster than pretty much anything else around it and with an effortless grace, too. Moved up through the gears really nicely. Still wasn�t the best car around, but a bit of tweaking in the engine and he�d have been flying, though definitely not literally.
The problem was that, last year, he�d had to get some parts exchanged. He�d not had the money to go to the official dealer � which are always overpriced anyway, he said, and he was spot on, or at least he would have been if this wasn�t a metaphor � but he�d had to change the fuel injection, because it wanted to bring its kids up in Spain, wasn�t a fan of high tax rates and they�d had a few disagreements anyway. He�d bought a new one, a fancy Italian one, but he wasn�t quite sure where it would work and how soon he could get it fitted. He�d upgraded the driver side rear tyre, too, but that seemed like a sensible move, what with the homegrown regulations the DVLA had brought in.
Sadly, though, it didn�t quite work. When he first drove the car after coming back from holiday in 2009, it spluttered a bit when he turned the ignition on and it just couldn�t get going. Every time he thought he was getting somewhere, a piece fell out, or broke, or tore an adductor, and it started struggling again. He said he�d made a few mistakes along the way, too, including telling some of the more important parts that they really should start behaving like important parts and taking it to Reading, while he had a bit of a habit of driving through potholes.
So I bought it off him. I replaced some of the parts, too, though I kept hold of the most important ones, even if one had to leave because its wife couldn�t settle here. The ones I bought were all of my own choosing, though, even if I did accidentally buy two fanbelts but forget to mend the steering wheel. The guy who sold it to me said it maybe wouldn�t be able to get up to 100 miles an hour without major, expensive surgery, but that it should certainly be capable of going fast enough to get it to Europe, though probably not the nice bits. Now, though, it just won�t go at all. It�s barely moved for the last couple of months. I�ve driven it very badly, none of the parts are working and I�ve put a couple of them in the wrong place. The passenger side rear tyre, for a start, is completely bald. It�s a diesel engine, but I�m running it on petrol, just to see how it goes.
Yet, to be honest, I think it�s the previous owner�s fault. I mean, how can I expect to drive it well when it wasn�t perfect in the first place? If he�d left it in a better state, I wouldn�t have had to buy all those new parts, which just don�t work. True, he wouldn�t have sold me the car, but that�s by the by. Of course, it�s a bit of a puzzle why a car that could do 70mph last year can only do 19 now, but that strikes me as being because of the changes he made two years ago, not the ones I made this summer, or the way I�ve put the car together. Definitely. It�s his fault. I�m doing the best I can, under the circumstances, really.
Aha, I like that. Good piece.
So is the other one, actually...
El-Ni�o2010-10-19 16:54:34
Some interesting reading....I do think things will get better.
Keep ya peckers up!!
This is really the first time in Nando's carrer he's hit some bad form init?
Dont worry buffy, as a consolation Arsenal wont win anything this year either, probably Man U too!
We have more chance than Liverpool. And at least we won't go down.
We have more chance than Liverpool. And at least we won't go down.
Would you rather finish 1st one season then 10th the next or finish 2nd in both?
nothing init just wondering, because you lot seem to be quite pleased with where you are
You gotta have a larf in these times...
TheKop2010-10-20 09:30:11
TheKop2010-10-20 09:30:11
So what is rafa talking about the white liquid in a bottle? I don't get it!?
this w/e whatever you do. Don't concede the first goal against blackburn or u will never win.
So what is rafa talking about the white liquid in a bottle? I don't get it!?
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck. or It's Crystal clear...
Have to say I actually LOL reading those quotes. Typical Rafa cryptics...TheKop2010-10-20 14:40:12
For those of you who listen to Podcasts, there's quite a good interview with Tom (one of the new owners), after listeningto it, they sound like they're taking a sensible approach etc, I think i'd have a good degree of confidence in them...
Go to iTunes search for 'Five Live Football Daily' and the one you're after is entilted - 'New Owners, same result 17Oct;, and the interview goes for the first 5 mins...
Go to iTunes search for 'Five Live Football Daily' and the one you're after is entilted - 'New Owners, same result 17Oct;, and the interview goes for the first 5 mins...
So what is rafa talking about the white liquid in a bottle? I don't get it!?
Kind of like calling a spade a spade, I think..
Good quotes though!
Those pics are kwalitee, Kop. Especially the one with the "Roy-bans" 
All doom and gloom for Fridays game? Napoli are playing pretty well, there defence is pretty crap but there attack has been awesome; Cavani, Lavezzi, Hamsik and even Dossena playing as a left wingback has been playing well.
Wow, what a morning for news/rumour.
1. Cecil has stepped down and accepted a non Executive management role.
2. Ayre offered resignation but it was declined. He has a future (I wouldn't rule out new CEO with his Asian sports connections)
3. 2 Senior LFC players have refused to play again under Roy. Torres, Gerrard, Agger, Lucas and Meireles all left at home for Napoli trip.
4. Roy expected to step down after Napoli match
5. Rikjaard has been dumped by Gala.
1. Cecil has stepped down and accepted a non Executive management role.
2. Ayre offered resignation but it was declined. He has a future (I wouldn't rule out new CEO with his Asian sports connections)
3. 2 Senior LFC players have refused to play again under Roy. Torres, Gerrard, Agger, Lucas and Meireles all left at home for Napoli trip.
4. Roy expected to step down after Napoli match
5. Rikjaard has been dumped by Gala.
Apparently Rafa's cold, calculating heart and utter refusal to bond with players is working wonders for Inter.
Hodgson asked about if the Mancs wanted to sign Torres: "I think I'd have to say we'd cross that bridge when we come to it."
Say no more...
Say no more...
Pelligrini's agent says he's been approached by LFC.
La Segunda
Translations not that good, but you get the idea
Pellegrini representative confirms contacts with Liverpool
Wednesday October 20, 2010
Source: dpa
Santiago, Manuel Pellegrini is in negotiations to direct the ailing Liverpool, announced today the representative of the strategist, Jesus Martinez.
"We had some contacts, but as the club is in the process of change, and no one knows who is boss, no progress on the topic," Martinez revealed.
The choice of the former coach of Real Madrid, came about because of the poor performance of the England team, now led by Roy Hodgson.
Martinez added that the possibility of commanding technically Liverpool Chilean appeals more to other offers from the last time, junior teams and tradition.
"Pellegrini has had offers from clubs in Italy, but initially wanted to wait a bit to some better option," said the representative.
"And Liverpool is a club that Manuel would like to address," he said.
La Segunda
Translations not that good, but you get the idea
Pellegrini representative confirms contacts with Liverpool
Wednesday October 20, 2010
Source: dpa
Santiago, Manuel Pellegrini is in negotiations to direct the ailing Liverpool, announced today the representative of the strategist, Jesus Martinez.
"We had some contacts, but as the club is in the process of change, and no one knows who is boss, no progress on the topic," Martinez revealed.
The choice of the former coach of Real Madrid, came about because of the poor performance of the England team, now led by Roy Hodgson.
Martinez added that the possibility of commanding technically Liverpool Chilean appeals more to other offers from the last time, junior teams and tradition.
"Pellegrini has had offers from clubs in Italy, but initially wanted to wait a bit to some better option," said the representative.
"And Liverpool is a club that Manuel would like to address," he said.
At least the in-flight entertainment should be good on the flight to Naples 
Hodge started out saying the right things but has lost his mind.
This club is turning good managers crazy.
This club is turning good managers crazy.
This is an awesome interview with one of the new owners
It is probably better to get a new manager now so all the drama we have had over the past 6 months can finally be finished. I don't want Rickjard (speeling) it seems that the Gala fans don't like him
This is an awesome interview with one of the new owners
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It is probably better to get a new manager now so all the drama we have had over the past 6 months can finally be finished. I don't want Rickjard (speeling) it seems that the Gala fans don't like him
Good read that. Not sure about Rikjaard myself. If the Pelegrini rumours are true then we should be looking at him.
Pretty damning photo gallery by the echo at the Napoli press conference. Doom and gloom.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2010/10/20/liverpool-fc-train-in-italy-ahead-of-europa-league-clash-with-napoli-gallery-100252-27515723/
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2010/10/20/liverpool-fc-train-in-italy-ahead-of-europa-league-clash-with-napoli-gallery-100252-27515723/
I love that black and yellow tracksuit! Roy looks stressed too
Life ain't supposed to be easy... 
been thinking that the reason for every single problem accosiated with your club is sammy lee
just a thought
been thinking that the reason for every single problem accosiated with your club is sammy lee
just a thought
this is what i have been thinking for awhile. He was no good at Bolton.
You might get your head bitten off by a few reds for saying it though lol
what time is kick off tomorrow?
^ 6 i think
maybe some explanation to SOME of Woys comments here.
Word on twitter is he wont be here for long anyway
Is it just me or does Poulson always pass backwards? (and it's always first touch pass too)
Jonjo Shelvey
Santiago, Manuel Pellegrini is in negotiations to direct the ailing Liverpool, announced today the representative of the strategist, Jesus Martinez.
Divine intervention?
Might just work...
EDIT: 0 - 0 vs. Napoli...
/sigh
Milky Pisswit2010-10-22 08:21:15
^ Under 'normal' circumstances a sigh would be justified but not a totally bad effort from the B team and youngsters. Shelvey looks the goods, I really hope they look after and develop him.
Blackburn will be a different story.
Blackburn will be a different story.
anyone else happy simply because we didnt lose?
im personally would like hodge to have a few more games,SLIGHT improvement tonight.
although that just prossibly because our slow passing and complete lack of intensity is less likely to be exposed by italian teams
im personally would like hodge to have a few more games,SLIGHT improvement tonight.
although that just prossibly because our slow passing and complete lack of intensity is less likely to be exposed by italian teams
^ dammit. See how I just lowered our standards?
Apologies...
Apologies...
it funny because for all the stick spearing gets he is still twice the player poulsen is