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Bullion wrote:
Paulinho wrote:
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Coles tackle was thuggish and he was lucky to stay on the park.[/QUOTE] Total c**t of a tackle, especially the continuation with the other foot.
That tackle was awful. Interesting that the penalty wasn't given, yet the ref was still aware of the tackle and booked him. I don't understand that if the ball was dead and the tackle was made, it wouldn't be a penalty (as the commentators were suggesting). Anyone know the definitive rule behind that?
You would think it should be penalty, not sure if it was because the AR seemed to alert the ref to the offence. Hope it is nothing too serious, luckily in a position we have a lot of depth
He could have been given a red card, but if the ball was dead I doubt it could have been a penalty.
Yeah, seems ball was dead before contact was made: [quote=ref365]Right then, that aside, I want to have a look first at Ashley Cole's challenge on Javier Hernandez which so enraged Sir Alex Ferguson. There's a double issue to be discussed here, because there is a debate on the severity of the tackle and then one on whether it was a penalty or not. Starting with the latter, I have slowed down the footage to the point where I can tell that when Cole made contact with Hernandez the ball was out of play. Just. So technically the right decision was made to not give a penalty. Now I think referee Phil Dowd and his assistant have guessed at that, because the speed of the incident is so great that I doubt they were certain, but they've got to call it one way or another. They've guessed, but they've got it right. However, I think the tackle itself was awful. It was high, it was late, it was dangerous. It was halfway up the leg of Hernandez and the studs were evident. I think it was very poor from Cole, and that he knew what he was doing. He is a lucky boy.
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Ok, so if Rory Delap is winding up for a long throw, and before he throws it in there is shirt tugging in the box, as Kenywne Jones (or one of their other large humans) tries to get away from their marker. So long as this is going on while the ball is 'dead'. there is nothing wrong with this? No penalty, but someone can be yellow or even red carded?
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I used the example of a throw in because for a corner or a free kick the ball is still technically on the field of play.
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I'm also not bitter or anything about not getting the call, I'm just genuinely interested as to the rule.
Yeah, just listening to the latest football weekly podcast they had an example of some guy getting sent of for a punch in the box when waiting for a corner, ball is still dead, and no penalty.