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Posted February 14, 2019 22:27 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:50

Martial wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Martial wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
el grapadura wrote:

And maybe we can now stop playing the man and get on with talking about Man U.

Sounds good to me.

How shark are United then? Completely outplayed at home by a depleted PSG side. Should really have been 3 or 4 but for some poor finishing.

Paul Labile Pogba. Has he ever done anything of note in a big game for Manchester United Football Club? He seems happy enough scoring, assisting and dabbing when playing the likes of Huddersfield, Fulham and Cardiff. Goes hiding when a competent midfield pairing or trio rock up.

Also has this shown up the Norwegian goblin for what he really is? A tactically inept and clueless manager at the top table. Hopefully for all our sakes he rights some wrongs when you take on Liverpool later this month, but i think on that showing Klopp will be licking his lips at the prospect of going head to head with Ole eleven days from now.

Full strength Arsenal just lost to Bate Borisov ... "How shark are Arsenal then?"

As far as I see it there's no shame in losing to PSG. The two injuries absolutely killed us. There's a difference between having players injured before a game and being able to completely plan accordingly, and losing two at half-time and having to completely re-jig the strategy mid-game. In saying that, I am sure United meticulously plan for such eventualities. It hurt us because we just don't have the depth to cope and someone like Mata is a completely different type of player to Lingard. PSG were the superior side, with superior squad depth and it showed on the day. No shame at all in that. 

One such loss hasn't "shown Ole up" at all. Reality is we are in the CL spots for next season as it stands - something that wasn't even in anyone's thinking a month ago. Let's see how the next few weeks play out, starting with Chelsea Tuesday. 

We are absolutely horrific mate, no question.

Thank you for discussing the issues at hand, one or two of your fellow supporters could learn from this.

Any thoughts on Pogba?

I agree to a certain extent to him having big games against the bottom half of the prem but he can only play what's in front of him in those ones. Pundits who were slating him a few weeks ago were questioning whether he should now be in line for POTY honours for the whole league. I don't think last night was a concern. He's been excellent for the last month and was due a quiet game. It just happened to be against a pretty good side on a big night. He was pretty damn good for France in the World Cup and I'd call those big games. We've got Chelsea/Liverpool/PSG coming up so we'll see how he goes across those fixtures and then reassess whether he has a big game issue. I think he'll have a stormer against the Scousers.

Agree he was excellent for France at the World Cup, i even defended him on here from one or two posters who suggested he was shark in Russia and it was simply Kante making him look good. Fact is he's never really delivered for United in a big game or when it really mattered. One performance comes to mind, City away last year. Pogba seized the initiative and turned the game on it's head. I think if he were to do that more often he would certainly be in the discussion for best player in the Prem. Pundits can be incredibly fickle so POTY calls are very premature and fail to take in the bigger picture. I hope you're right and he does show up against Liverpool, cannot stand the thought of them winning the league.

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Martial wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Martial wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
el grapadura wrote:

And maybe we can now stop playing the man and get on with talking about Man U.

Sounds good to me.

How shark are United then? Completely outplayed at home by a depleted PSG side. Should really have been 3 or 4 but for some poor finishing.

Paul Labile Pogba. Has he ever done anything of note in a big game for Manchester United Football Club? He seems happy enough scoring, assisting and dabbing when playing the likes of Huddersfield, Fulham and Cardiff. Goes hiding when a competent midfield pairing or trio rock up.

Also has this shown up the Norwegian goblin for what he really is? A tactically inept and clueless manager at the top table. Hopefully for all our sakes he rights some wrongs when you take on Liverpool later this month, but i think on that showing Klopp will be licking his lips at the prospect of going head to head with Ole eleven days from now.

Full strength Arsenal just lost to Bate Borisov ... "How shark are Arsenal then?"

As far as I see it there's no shame in losing to PSG. The two injuries absolutely killed us. There's a difference between having players injured before a game and being able to completely plan accordingly, and losing two at half-time and having to completely re-jig the strategy mid-game. In saying that, I am sure United meticulously plan for such eventualities. It hurt us because we just don't have the depth to cope and someone like Mata is a completely different type of player to Lingard. PSG were the superior side, with superior squad depth and it showed on the day. No shame at all in that. 

One such loss hasn't "shown Ole up" at all. Reality is we are in the CL spots for next season as it stands - something that wasn't even in anyone's thinking a month ago. Let's see how the next few weeks play out, starting with Chelsea Tuesday. 

We are absolutely horrific mate, no question.

Thank you for discussing the issues at hand, one or two of your fellow supporters could learn from this.

Any thoughts on Pogba?

I agree to a certain extent to him having big games against the bottom half of the prem but he can only play what's in front of him in those ones. Pundits who were slating him a few weeks ago were questioning whether he should now be in line for POTY honours for the whole league. I don't think last night was a concern. He's been excellent for the last month and was due a quiet game. It just happened to be against a pretty good side on a big night. He was pretty damn good for France in the World Cup and I'd call those big games. We've got Chelsea/Liverpool/PSG coming up so we'll see how he goes across those fixtures and then reassess whether he has a big game issue. I think he'll have a stormer against the Scousers.

Agree he was excellent for France at the World Cup, i even defended him on here from one or two posters who suggested he was shark in Russia and it was simply Kante making him look good. Fact is he's never really delivered for United in a big game or when it really mattered. One performance comes to mind, City away last year. Pogba seized the initiative and turned the game on it's head. I think if he were to do that more often he would certainly be in the discussion for best player in the Prem. Pundits can be incredibly fickle so POTY calls are very premature and fail to take in the bigger picture. I hope you're right and he does show up against Liverpool, cannot stand the thought of them winning the league.