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Posted March 19, 2019 00:11 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:50

Leggy wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

Leggy - since you think he's inexperienced at "this level" because he "rushed players back" - do you think 12 months managing a premier league team would somehow wisen him up to the fact that you quite often can't rush injured players back?

Or do you think, given Ole has spent several years managing professional senior sides, there's perhaps a scenario or piece of information in the decision making process that you've not yet thought about as to why he would choose to play those players?

Further who do you think would recognise when it's right to return players from injury better - Ole Gunnar, Mike Phelan, and Michael Carrick, or Manchester Evening News?

This idea that he's inexperienced is just English media hogwash. If it was up to the press Pep Guardiola never would have been given a chance a Barcelona right at the start of his career.

The best example of this is Real Madrid, who despite appointing very experienced managers have gone back to the ex-player whose first gig was at the club itself. Turns out things like culture and footballing values are more important that a bumper CV.

It is not my opinion that he is inexperienced at this level, it is a fact. How many weeks has he been an EPL manager? MU is slightly different than some Norwegian club.I  mentioned the fans comments in the MEN, not the newspaper. I'm not anti Ole but I'm also not fawning over him like the media.

Yea I don't think the debate is around his experience at this level. He is clearly at his first big club. BUT he is at the club he spent 10 years playing at and 4 years coaching at. And he has other experienced coaches alongside him. 

I don't think anyone thinks Ole is perfect. But right now, he is as perfect as we are going to get for the job and our situation. 

He is doing the right things, saying the right things and maybe the two games since the PSG game have just been at the end of an intense stretch that was a bit much for both the players and himself.. If he loses three games and draws only two per 19 matches, I think i would like him to stay

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Leggy wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

Leggy - since you think he's inexperienced at "this level" because he "rushed players back" - do you think 12 months managing a premier league team would somehow wisen him up to the fact that you quite often can't rush injured players back?

Or do you think, given Ole has spent several years managing professional senior sides, there's perhaps a scenario or piece of information in the decision making process that you've not yet thought about as to why he would choose to play those players?

Further who do you think would recognise when it's right to return players from injury better - Ole Gunnar, Mike Phelan, and Michael Carrick, or Manchester Evening News?

This idea that he's inexperienced is just English media hogwash. If it was up to the press Pep Guardiola never would have been given a chance a Barcelona right at the start of his career.

The best example of this is Real Madrid, who despite appointing very experienced managers have gone back to the ex-player whose first gig was at the club itself. Turns out things like culture and footballing values are more important that a bumper CV.

It is not my opinion that he is inexperienced at this level, it is a fact. How many weeks has he been an EPL manager? MU is slightly different than some Norwegian club.I  mentioned the fans comments in the MEN, not the newspaper. I'm not anti Ole but I'm also not fawning over him like the media.

Yea I don't think the debate is around his experience at this level. He is clearly at his first big club. BUT he is at the club he spent 10 years playing at and 4 years coaching at. And he has other experienced coaches alongside him. 

I don't think anyone thinks Ole is perfect. But right now, he is as perfect as we are going to get for the job and our situation. 

He is doing the right things, saying the right things and maybe the two games since the PSG game have just been at the end of an intense stretch that was a bit much for both the players and himself.. If he loses three games and draws only two per 19 matches, I think i would like him to stay