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Posted October 02, 2019 03:03 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:50

djtim3000 wrote:
Leggy wrote:
djtim3000 wrote:
Leggy wrote:
valeo wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

I thought Tuanzebe had a good game except their goal. He was the main reason Pepe was non-existent.

Pepe is the reason Pepe was non existent. He had tonnes of space but did nothing with it.

Both teams were terrible and a shadow of their former selves. Two crap coaches, and it shows.

It is more about both teams having very few quality players. The best manager in the world would not be able to help either of these sides.

On paper, the currently Chelsea team is nowhere near either Arsenal or ManU when it comes to quality. But their manager has them playing some surpisingly good football (going forward at least). I think the big dfference for Lampard is that due to the transfer ban there is far less pressure to win at all costs from the fans, the media and the owners. This will enable Chelsea to properly rebuild without throwing the baby away with the bath water. Allowing the manager to get to where he needs to be without the pressure of winning everything all the time, will allow Chelsea to catch up to Liverpool and ManC in a year or to I would wager. Too bad Arsenal and ManU didn't end up with this the same blessing in diguise and will most likely end up in another sack the manager merry-go-round where nothing really changes.

Disagree. They have  Kante,Willian and Pulisic and Abraham who can score goals. Pedro and Mount are not exactly bunnies.either.

Can't comment on Arsenal but the management of this club is piss poor. I certainly cannot be bothered to go back and see( a few years ago) I have been on about the lack of quality players for a long time. Even other team supporters mocked me within the last few years when I suggested that we needed  to get rid of at least 6 players. Some of the ones I wanted out are still there.

Not sure what point you are trying to make there, and what you are disagreeing with, exactly. Those four players score on average 0.16 goals per game between them. Lingard, Rashford, Pogba and Martial score 0.23 which is far more. Chelsea clearly has a weaker squad on paper, and is right now able to go through a rebuild seemingly without the pressure that would otherwise be on the coach, in different circumstances.

https://talksport.com/football/569010/chelseas-arsenals-and-manchester-uniteds-even-without-eden-hazard-says-tony-cascarino/

Obviously someone else thinks the same.

The players I mentioned are much better than most of our players.

You are pretty naive if you think there is no pressure. Chelsea have had six managers in six years and most of them were sacked by Abramovich .There is plenty of pressure.

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djtim3000 wrote:
Leggy wrote:
djtim3000 wrote:
Leggy wrote:
valeo wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

I thought Tuanzebe had a good game except their goal. He was the main reason Pepe was non-existent.

Pepe is the reason Pepe was non existent. He had tonnes of space but did nothing with it.

Both teams were terrible and a shadow of their former selves. Two crap coaches, and it shows.

It is more about both teams having very few quality players. The best manager in the world would not be able to help either of these sides.

On paper, the currently Chelsea team is nowhere near either Arsenal or ManU when it comes to quality. But their manager has them playing some surpisingly good football (going forward at least). I think the big dfference for Lampard is that due to the transfer ban there is far less pressure to win at all costs from the fans, the media and the owners. This will enable Chelsea to properly rebuild without throwing the baby away with the bath water. Allowing the manager to get to where he needs to be without the pressure of winning everything all the time, will allow Chelsea to catch up to Liverpool and ManC in a year or to I would wager. Too bad Arsenal and ManU didn't end up with this the same blessing in diguise and will most likely end up in another sack the manager merry-go-round where nothing really changes.

Disagree. They have  Kante,Willian and Pulisic and Abraham who can score goals. Pedro and Mount are not exactly bunnies.either.

Can't comment on Arsenal but the management of this club is piss poor. I certainly cannot be bothered to go back and see( a few years ago) I have been on about the lack of quality players for a long time. Even other team supporters mocked me within the last few years when I suggested that we needed  to get rid of at least 6 players. Some of the ones I wanted out are still there.

Not sure what point you are trying to make there, and what you are disagreeing with, exactly. Those four players score on average 0.16 goals per game between them. Lingard, Rashford, Pogba and Martial score 0.23 which is far more. Chelsea clearly has a weaker squad on paper, and is right now able to go through a rebuild seemingly without the pressure that would otherwise be on the coach, in different circumstances.

https://talksport.com/football/569010/chelseas-arsenals-and-manchester-uniteds-even-without-eden-hazard-says-tony-cascarino/

Obviously someone else thinks the same.

The players I mentioned are much better than most of our players.

You are pretty naive if you think there is no pressure. Chelsea have had six managers in six years and most of them were sacked by Abramovich .There is plenty of pressure.