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Posted October 04, 2019 04:34 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:50

20 Legend wrote:
paulm wrote:

Dang guys that situation in the forwards is absurd. You've got a handful of guys nobody seemingly wants in the team, some guys who were turfed out that would probably be pretty handy right now, and then the guys you thought you could rely on are either in poor form or injured. It's a sad state of affairs. 

Is the main issue the club management i.e. woodward etc? The players? Ole? A combo of all 3?

I mean, we purposely played a weaker team. I'm actually OK with it - the fact only Lingard was injured is a big plus for me (the plus is that it was only the one player, I don't wish an injury on anyone)

I'm not as keen to blame Woodward as others are. The fact is there's been a line of failed long term planning based due to hiring managers with differing philosophies, that were all incompatible with the club in one way or another. I dobn't believe Woodward has sole responsibility of this - there's a whole commercial board (the glazers) as well as a football board (which includes Sir Alex and Sir Bobby) who can bare some of the blame.

I'm still of the opinion that Ole is taking the club in the right direction (step backwards to go forwards and all) - but even after Ole, we need to get over this line of thinking when finding a new manager: "proven winner", "success on the biggest stage" bla bla bla and fall back on "do they fit here", "do their squads behave like the ones we want", etc.

We will see.

Edit: also - when we see players like Harry Maguire let's be OK with paying above market rates for them. When we see players like Sanchez, let's not.

There are 6 Glazers on the board plus Woodward. Doubt AF or Charlton have much  sway. The Glazer family have taken 1 billion pounds out of the club and have ' invested' nothing. 

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Unknown editor edited March 18, 2021 07:50
20 Legend wrote:
paulm wrote:

Dang guys that situation in the forwards is absurd. You've got a handful of guys nobody seemingly wants in the team, some guys who were turfed out that would probably be pretty handy right now, and then the guys you thought you could rely on are either in poor form or injured. It's a sad state of affairs. 

Is the main issue the club management i.e. woodward etc? The players? Ole? A combo of all 3?

I mean, we purposely played a weaker team. I'm actually OK with it - the fact only Lingard was injured is a big plus for me (the plus is that it was only the one player, I don't wish an injury on anyone)

I'm not as keen to blame Woodward as others are. The fact is there's been a line of failed long term planning based due to hiring managers with differing philosophies, that were all incompatible with the club in one way or another. I dobn't believe Woodward has sole responsibility of this - there's a whole commercial board (the glazers) as well as a football board (which includes Sir Alex and Sir Bobby) who can bare some of the blame.

I'm still of the opinion that Ole is taking the club in the right direction (step backwards to go forwards and all) - but even after Ole, we need to get over this line of thinking when finding a new manager: "proven winner", "success on the biggest stage" bla bla bla and fall back on "do they fit here", "do their squads behave like the ones we want", etc.

We will see.

Edit: also - when we see players like Harry Maguire let's be OK with paying above market rates for them. When we see players like Sanchez, let's not.

There are 6 Glazers on the board plus Woodward. Doubt AF or Charlton have much  sway. The Glazer family have taken 1 billion pounds out of the club and have ' invested' nothing. 

Unknown editor edited October 04, 2019 04:37
20 Legend wrote:
paulm wrote:

Dang guys that situation in the forwards is absurd. You've got a handful of guys nobody seemingly wants in the team, some guys who were turfed out that would probably be pretty handy right now, and then the guys you thought you could rely on are either in poor form or injured. It's a sad state of affairs. 

Is the main issue the club management i.e. woodward etc? The players? Ole? A combo of all 3?

I mean, we purposely played a weaker team. I'm actually OK with it - the fact only Lingard was injured is a big plus for me (the plus is that it was only the one player, I don't wish an injury on anyone)

I'm not as keen to blame Woodward as others are. The fact is there's been a line of failed long term planning based due to hiring managers with differing philosophies, that were all incompatible with the club in one way or another. I dobn't believe Woodward has sole responsibility of this - there's a whole commercial board (the glazers) as well as a football board (which includes Sir Alex and Sir Bobby) who can bare some of the blame.

I'm still of the opinion that Ole is taking the club in the right direction (step backwards to go forwards and all) - but even after Ole, we need to get over this line of thinking when finding a new manager: "proven winner", "success on the biggest stage" bla bla bla and fall back on "do they fit here", "do their squads behave like the ones we want", etc.

We will see.

Edit: also - when we see players like Harry Maguire let's be OK with paying above market rates for them. When we see players like Sanchez, let's not.

There are 6 Glazers on the board plus Woodward. Doubt AF or Charlton have much of a say. The Glazer family have taken 1 billion pounds out of the club and have ' invested' nothing.