I'm saying the faults with the players right now are because of Mourinho, not in spite of him. They should be better, and most of them have been better under other Managers or at different clubs. I understand if you disagree but you should be able to understand my point at the very least.
Fair points on Shaw and Lingard, but I disagree with your other player assessments. Yes I do not watch ManU as much as your typical ManU fan, to be fair they're just not enjoyable to watch for the neutral, but those are the things that I see when I do watch them.
I'm also shocked at how so many of you have got the blinkers on when it comes to Mourinho's history. Going beyond 2 seasons with him is just not the territory you want to be in.
I can't speak for other Utd fans but I for one have not got blinkers on regarding JM. I have a friend of mine who is a big Chelsea fan and he asked me in 2004 if I hated JM. I replied that I did not and believed that what you saw was not the actual bloke. I still think that. I guess because he had been successful at Porto the British Press tried to give him heaps and he just got sick of the baiting and became a bit of an odd ball. They still treat him like crap, ask the most stupid questions and expect him to be Mr. nice guy.
I could ask you if you had your blinkers on in the last 10 years re AW, because the only difference between him and JM is the fact that JM achieved. They both made so many excuses ( particularly AW, it was embarrassing)