I'm saying the faults with the players right now are because of Mourinho, not in spite of him. They should be better, and most of them have been better under other Managers or at different clubs. I understand if you disagree but you should be able to understand my point at the very least.
Fair points on Shaw and Lingard, but I disagree with your other player assessments. Yes I do not watch ManU as much as your typical ManU fan, to be fair they're just not enjoyable to watch for the neutral, but those are the things that I see when I do watch them.
I'm also shocked at how so many of you have got the blinkers on when it comes to Mourinho's history. Going beyond 2 seasons with him is just not the territory you want to be in.