SCOTTISH FOOTBALL THREAD

it's not my fault you support partick thistle nil, .celtic and rangers aint that good either but these teams used to put up a fight against us , this year has been so poor.the gap between the old fim and the rest is getting bigger.not good for our game i don't have any short term answers but something needs to be done .it needs a complete overhaul jinky2010-10-05 20:42:06

Go and get f**ked you tinker, peg selling, soap dodging waste of space.

Complain that the other teams are crap. That's rich  - Celtic's initial offer for Anthony Stokes was a f**king derisory 800K - for the 2nd highest scorer in the SPL ffs! This after flogging McManus for 1.5M

If the Old Firm didnt keep buying the best players in the SPL from the other clubs, then they might have a competitive league, as such, the Old Firm are quite happy to pay the best players at the other clubs 4-5 times as much as the likes of Hibs and Dundee Utd can afford to pay - just to sit on the bench - Chris Killen anyone?

Well, that tactic sure works for Celtic and Rangers doesn't it

Because the top players they buy from the other SPL clubs rarely get a game ahead of the v expensive imports already in the team.

Hibs paid Killen 2K a week (and at most can only afford this)
Celtic paid him about 10-12K a week
Nakamura or such would've been on ~20K a week

I agree that the gap between the old firm and the rest is the old firm's doing so they can't really complain about it now. They've purposefully used their strength and money to create that gap. They've wanted to guarantee themselves European action. Offer stingey deals to the best players of other teams who have to take it or they'll go for nothing after contract runs out. Unfortunately, that's capitalist football.

What's happening with your mob, Colvinator? Last I heard they weren't able to pay the player's wages. Any developments?

Hard to say amongst all the speculation and club trying to play it down. Players weren't paid end of last week, but apparently are this week. Seems the days ahead are crucial. Doesn't seem that the club will fold completely, but there's a chance of going into administration, which will probably carve the team up. Either way, they'll have to offload some of the wage bill I suppose. They should give Terry a call!

Wouldn't mind seeing Harkins in a Nix shirt, to be honest

Heck yea! Harkins would definitely dominate.

Here's the best story I've seen on what's maybe going to happen with Dundee:

Steve-O2010-10-07 23:14:45

Weren't dundee favourites for promotion this year, after blowing it last year?

One of the best things about NZ is that you do not have to put up with the fu#king old farm. Their fans are all numpties (who talk utter mince) and the sight of their strips makes me spew!

By the way, do we have a chance of taking any points from the Czech Republic or Spain?

I am surprised to see that Kenny Miller has been dropped after scoring 10 goals this season. Instead of having one up front, we should have two products of the Killie youth team - Boyd and Naismith? Mon the Scotland!

Scotland: McGregor, Hutton, Weir, McManus, Whittaker, G Caldwell, D Fletcher, Dorrans, Morrison, Naismith, Mackie

Scotland lining up with a 4-6-0 formation, I don't know what to say.

Makes the 1-0 result rather predicatble doesn't it?

After traveling all over Europe with the Tartan Army, I am gutted for the 7,000 fans that made the trip to Prague.

Simply the most shameful display in Scotland's history. It's one thing to play defensively, it's quite another to take the field with absolutely no intention of having a shot at the opposition goal. What's more, it's not the player's fault, as they were following a gameplan.

I thought nothing could kill my interest in the Scotland team, but I fear this 'manager' could just be about to manage it.

Craig, for the sake of our national dignity, please just go.

As a sidenote, if the SFA had any conscience they would pay the costs of those thousands of fans that went to Prague under the pretence that they were there to see a football team.

Levein is a total dickhead.

Not looking too promising for Dundee:

I think it is possible to feel sorry for the fans while not feeling any sympathy for those who run the club. The running of Dundee has been disgraceful and if the club goes under then those at the helm deserve nothing less. The guys that watch dundee week in week out however only want to support their team. They have likely spent thousands watching their club and it is those guys I feel sorry for. Im sure most fans could imagine what it would feel like to lose their own team.

Here are the highlights of the five goal thriller at Hampden Park between Bonnie Scotland and world champions Spain.

http://www.footytube.com/video/scotland-spain-oct12-59705

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_x3bBN0FpU

oh dear.

Don't know all the ins and outs, but it reminds me a little bit of Gretna. Man comes in and chucks money around, money man pulls out, club ends up deep in the sh*t.

For some of us, losing our team is a far greater possibility than for othersJag2010-10-16 09:21:31

A very testy Levein walking out of the after match interview!
Kiwi Jambo2010-10-18 19:06:55

When you send a team onto a football pitch with no intention of winning the match, with the purpose of hacking and defending for an hour and a half you instantly hit my sh*tlist. I don't give a flying ar$e who employed these tactics where and if it is a brave new world tactically. Not for my team please.

Levein killed a little bit of the Scottish National Team last Friday and his international career should quite rightly burn for it. Sending a defensive team to the nou camp to defend is understandable (if not acceptable), sending a similiar line up to the average Czechs who we more than matched at home is stark raving bonkers.

There is no case for the defence. The ends never justify the means if it creates 90 minutes of utter sh#te like it did last week. I'll happily never qualify for another tournament EVER again than accept a team I support playing with that philosophy. Totally unacceptable I'm afraid and speaking personally, I don't think there's anyway back for Levein (for me) unless he wins the world cup itself. And even then I wouldn't thank you for it if we play like an internationl version of Hamilton Accies.

jinky2010-10-19 20:44:56

Aw man, Dundee hit with 25 point deduction, to move us to -11 on the table. Nasty. A lot larger than what everyone was expecting (10 or 15 deduction). Hopefully can get it reduced on appeal.Colvinator2010-11-02 08:49:18

Jag2010-11-02 10:04:48

I completely agree.

Despite the awful events on the last day of the season in 1986 (yes I was at Dens that afternoon,a day that has scarred me and left me  psychologically disturbed ever since )    you still believe it or not  have my deepest sympathy ,an historic club on life support, not good for anyone!! Kiwi Jambo2010-11-02 23:40:43

Dundee have still got a good team just now (at least until the transfer window opens), so hopefully we can rack up some wins and get close at some point to making it a decent relegation battle so the fans can really get behind the team.

I'm just gutted you can't sell any players, we'd get a cut if Harkins moved on Jag2010-11-04 09:54:15

9-0. Woot.

That just sums up the embarrassment that  Scottish football has become!!

Another great win for the mighty Jambos at Fester Rd. If only we could get some wins against good teams like Killie and we'd be closing in on leaders Motherwell.

Some shaky hand held highlights:

http://watch2video.net/hibs-0-2-hearts-video-ax0Fu4ckHIB.html

Sweet run from Templeton.

Celtic and Rangers are both currently 2-0 down.