Champions League draw

Champions League draw

Full Champions League draw:

Group A
CHELSEA
Roma
Bordeaux
CFR Cluj

Group B
Inter Milan
Werder Bremen
Panathinaikos
Anorthosis Famagusta

Group C
Barcelona
Sporting Lisbon
Basel
Shakhtar Donetsk

Group D
LIVERPOOL
PSV Eindhoven
Marseille
Atletico Madrid

Group E
MAN UTD
Villarreal
CELTIC
Aalborg

Group F
Lyon
Bayern Munich
Steaua Bucharest
Fiorentina

Group G
ARSENAL
Porto
Fenerbahce
Dynamo Kiev

Group H
Real Madrid
Juventus
Zenit St Petersburg
Bate Borisov

Games will be played on the following dates:
16/17 September
30 September/1 October
21/22 October
4/5 November
25/26 November
9/10 December

The toughest groups appear to be Liverpool's and ManU's?

Of all the English clubs, Arsenal have the toughest group. About time too, they've had very good luck with the draw at this stage of the competition in the past. I'd say they're the English club in most danger of not progressing.

Liverpool's group looks tough on paper, but I think that Marseille and PSV aren't as good as their names sound, Atletico Madrid is very good, expect them to go through with Liverpool.

Man U and Villarreal are head and shoulders above the other two teams in their group, and Chelsea will breeze through their group, probably with Roma.

Group F might produce some interesting games, but we probably won't get to see them...

I think Rafa would be pleased with our group. We've played Marseille and PSV in the last 2 group stages and progressed and Rafa's knowledge of the Spanish game means we always seem to do well against Spanish teams.

I agree I think the arse have the hardest group. Away games in Turkey and the Ukraine are some of the toughest and hard to get a result from.

Arsenal have by far the toughest group going to Turkey and getting a result is a right mish and Ukraine could be bloody tough too.

Liverpool have a reasonably tough group too, how the hell Athletico can be justified as a pot 4 team i'll never know. Man Ure have a simple group as do Chelski.

On a side note, c'mon BATE Borisov!!!

As for Atletico Madrid being in the 4th pot, they haven't been in the Champions League in about 10 years, so their UEFA points are quite low.
They weren't even seeded in the 3rd qualifying round, much to Schalke 04's misfortune...

From what I heard, Partizan were quite unlucky against Fener - led 2-0, had a goal disallowed which would have made it 3, and then Fener came back to 2-2 and won in Turkey.
Dinamo was awful against Shakhtar, never in it really.
Next season the qualifying system will change so we both should have a better chance of getting into the group stages.
It's just a shame that the teams we were killing 20 years ago are now knocking us out, sometimes even comfortably...

torres should dig his date with athletico

Atletico.


Those games will be on 21 October (morning of 22nd our time) and 5 November (morning of 6th our time).el grapadura2008-10-01 19:20:23

Panathinaikos to win 2-0 in Cyprus.

Greek on Greek action. Woo Hoo...

Group E
MAN UTD
Villarreal
CELTIC
Aalborg

fcuk

Wild day today. A whole crapload of goals. Looking forward to seeing the highlights package.

And there's still more goals...

Great comeback from Lyon. The Villarreal game seems to have been mildly interesting as well...

36 goals in 8 games this morning overall.el grapadura2008-10-22 09:44:02

GROUP E
Man Utd 3-0 Celtic
Villarreal 6-3 AaB
GROUP F
Bayern Munich 3-0 Fiorentina
Steaua Bucharest 3-5 Lyon
GROUP G
FC Porto 0-1 Dynamo Kiev
Fenerbahce 2-5 Arsenal
GROUP H
Juventus 2-1 Real Madrid
Zenit St Petersburg 1-1 FC BATE

The most goals in a Champions League night ever...

All those goals and Celtic still have 0 GF after three games.

Sometimes    is just so appropriate...

Alessandro Del Piero, great goal. One of my all time favorite players.

What about the shock lose by Inter Milan this morning, for all of those who don't know Inter lost at home to Panathinaikos of Greece 1-0. Link of the goal is down below.

http://www.goal4replay.net/VideoWatchF.asp?ID=20896&Ln=En

Group stages have ended...

Group winners: Roma, Panathinaikos, Barcelona, Liverpool, Manchester United, Bayern Munich, Porto, Juventus.
Others: Chelsea, Inter Milan, Sporting, Atletico Madrid, Villarreal, Lyon, Arsenal, Real Madrid.

Panathinkos the only surprise, Porto to a lesser extent but the group stage played out almost as usual. Match Ups I'd like to see: Liverpool vs Real Madrid, Internazionale vs Man U, Barcelona vs. Chelsea

I just found out that next year, top 3 from England, Italy and Spain are into the group stage and the 4th team in 3rd round of qualifying. Rather than top 2 in group and 3-4 in 3rd qualifying. I thought Platini was all about more equality and lessening the power of the 'big' teams, maybe G14 had a say in this.

You do realise Platini did this to try and get more smaller teams into the Groups right?

The qualifying system for thenext season is greatly changed, will ensure that at least 10 clubs from the smaller leagues are in the last 32.

G14 no longer exists. was disbanded about 18 months ago.

Wow, my knowledge of football has dropped in recent years.

Excellent.

Inter got what they deserved, showed no urgency in any of their 6 games really.

I feel a little sorry for Lyon, they just are not a lucky side.

Yeah Real Madrid vs Liverpool and Inter vs ManU are games which could be worthy of the final, disappointing that 2 of these teams will be leaving early, good for Chelsea though

what makes you think Chelsea are gonna beat juventus? timmy2008-12-20 22:48:31

Hard to make predictions when games are two months away, but if things don't change dramtically over that period, I'd say:

Chelsea - Juventus is about 50-50. Liverpool -> Real Madrid, who are awful at the back and can't seem to score a lot as well. And Atletico Madrid is a class above Porto.

I would say 60-40 in Chelseas favour, we won't lose to Juventus home or away, you will see.

Porto, Juventus, United and Barca are the teams I want to get through, not fussed about the others although I'd like to see Bayern knocked out 

Barca can put 6 past anyone.

Porto is a decent side, but really it's a pretty good draw for Atletico.