Posted July 12, 2024 09:16
· last edited July 12, 2024 09:16
I guess maybe the feeling is, with all the talent in the team, that maybe they should have won all of those tournaments well, and not just made semis, a QF etc and a final, while losing. Imagine if the team was actually allowed to express itself. Maybe thats harsh as well though, how often do we see the 'entertainers' and swashbuckling teams end up winning?Gooner 4 Life
For all of the Southgate criticism, people will look back in years to come and look at his record. A World Cup QF and SF and two Euro finals. Apart from Sir Alf Ramsey, no other England manager can probably beat his results.
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Pretty much. Back to back Euro finals, a World Cup SF and QF. Plus a Nations League SF albeit that's not really a major tournament. In the 50 years before him there were only 2 semi finals, one of them in a home tournament (as an aside he played every minute as a player in that one). Appreciate there has been some luck with draws and other teams going out early etc but there have been other favourable draws before that haven't worked out. There must be more to it than simply playing "easy" teams when it's multiple tournaments in a row.
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I guess maybe the feeling is, with all the talent in the team, that maybe they should have won all of those tournaments well, and not just made semis, a QF etc and a final, while losing. Imagine if the team was actually allowed to express itself. Maybe thats harsh as well though, how often do we see the 'entertainers' and swashbuckling teams end up winning?Gooner 4 Life
For all of the Southgate criticism, people will look back in years to come and look at his record. A World Cup QF and SF and two Euro finals. Apart from Sir Alf Ramsey, no other England manager can probably beat his results.
I guess maybe the feeling is, with all the talent in the team, that maybe they should have won all of those tournaments well, and not just made semis etc and a final, while losing.ajc28
Pretty much. Back to back Euro finals, a World Cup SF and QF. Plus a Nations League SF albeit that's not really a major tournament. In the 50 years before him there were only 2 semi finals, one of them in a home tournament (as an aside he played every minute as a player in that one). Appreciate there has been some luck with draws and other teams going out early etc but there have been other favourable draws before that haven't worked out. There must be more to it than simply playing "easy" teams when it's multiple tournaments in a row.