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Posted November 19, 2014 00:07 · last edited November 19, 2014 00:10

Jeff Vader wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

So it's basically a replica of Ricki's results against both those sides - Ricki got 1-1 draws with China, and lost 3-1 to Thailand.

All Hudson's proved so far is that he's better at talking s#*t than Ricki. Which, if we're honest, can hardly be called a monumental achievement.

True although was Ricki trying to build and develop a brand new team for the future at the time?

I'm prepared to give Hudson a little bit of slack for the 1st year because he has talked about and laid out his plan and largely done what he has said (blooded new young players etc) 

I would be interested if Roux survives. As identified in the Mexico game, he could not defend and nothing has suggested since that he can.

Gah, stupid technology - was just going to say that what it boils down to, is the players. Doesn't matter who the coach is, right now we don't have the player quality to be a genuinely competitive international side, and that won't change over a single World Cup cycle.

It's really something that will require a full generation to change, and that's assuming we do things right now - which is a hopeful assumption to make when it comes to NZ Football.

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el grapadura edited November 19, 2014 00:10
Jeff Vader wrote:
el grapadura wrote:

So it's basically a replica of Ricki's results against both those sides - Ricki got 1-1 draws with China, and lost 3-1 to Thailand.

All Hudson's proved so far is that he's better at talking s#*t than Ricki. Which, if we're honest, can hardly be called a monumental achievement.

True although was Ricki trying to build and develop a brand new team for the future at the time?

I'm prepared to give Hudson a little bit of slack for the 1st year because he has talked about and laid out his plan and largely done what he has said (blooded new young players etc) 

I would be interested if Roux survives. As identified in the Mexico game, he could not defend and nothing has suggested since that he can.