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Anthony Hudson (FAT Technical Director | Thailand)

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Posted April 23, 2017 03:18 · last edited April 23, 2017 03:26

Tegal wrote:

I think that's fair. He isn't likeable, but the players do seem happy with him as a coach. His record with the All Whites isn't exactly bad either.

I'll grant that from the rumour mill he seems liked by the players but I'm hesitant to put too much stock in that, because it's either hearsay or in the media and no one is going going to bad mouth their boss in public, and the rumour mill sometimes contradicts itself (see the comments from Nelfoos re Tratt and Patrick's reply). Not saying people are lying, just that second or third hand info from one or two sources can hardly be taken as representative of the opinions of 20 odd players.

The idea that his record is decent kind of baffles me. He's produced the bare minimum vs OFC sides and most of the friendlies we have played since he's been in charge we've looked crap. Two decent performances vs USA and Mexico seem to be the basis for this idea but we had draws vs PNG and New Caledonia before and after those games, in actual competitive fixtures. We beat Honduras before the Horror in Honiara but that didn't save Ricki's job. And Ricki had the 2010 WC results on his CV too.

If you look at his record to date (results and performances, not checklists and meetings with rugby coaches) it's hardly impressive. Some good performances at the Confeds Cup would tip the balance back in his favour but we're not there yet.

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Unknown editor edited April 23, 2017 03:26

Tegal wrote:

I think that's fair. He isn't likeable, but the players do seem happy with him as a coach. His record with the All Whites isn't exactly bad either.

I'll grant that from the rumour mill he seems liked by the players but I'm hesitant to put too much stock in that, because it's either hearsay or in the media and no one is going going to bad mouth their boss in public, and the rumour mill sometimes contradicts itself (see the comments from Nelfoos re Tratt and Patrick's reply). Not saying people are lying, just that second or third hand info from one or two sources can hardly betaken as representative of the opinions of 20 odd players.

The idea that his record is decent kind of baffles me. He's produced the bare minimum vs OFC sides and most of the friendlies we have played since he's been in charge we've looked crap. Two decent performances vs USA and Mexico seem to be the basis for this idea but we has draws vs PNG and New Caledonia before and after those games, in actual competitive fixtures. We beat Honduras before the Horror in Honiara but that didn't save Ricki's job. And Ricki had the 2010 WC results on his CV too.

If you look at his record to date (results and performances, not checklists and meetings with rugby coaches) it's hardly impressive. Some good performances at the Confeds Cup would top the balance back in his favour but we're not there yet.

Unknown editor edited April 23, 2017 03:20

Tegal wrote:

I think that's fair. He isn't likeable, but the players do seem happy with him as a coach. His record with the All Whites isn't exactly bad either.

I'll grant that from the rumour mill he seems liked by the players but I'm hesitant to put too much stock in that, because it's either hearsay or in the media and no one is going going to bad mouth their boss in public, and the rumour mill sometimes contradicts itself (see the comments from Nelfoos re Tratt and Patrick's reply). Not saying people are lying, just that second or third hand info from one or two sources can hardly betaken as representative of the opinions of 20 odd players.

The idea that his record is decent kind of baffles me. He's produced the bare minimum vs OFC sides and most of the friendlies we have played since he's been in charge we've looked crap. Two decent performances vs USA and Mexico seem to be the basis for this idea but we has draws vs PNG and New Caledonia before and after those games, in actual competitive fixtures. We beat Honduras before the Horror in Honiara but that, and the 2010 WC, didn't save Ricki's job.

If you look at his record to date (results and performances, not checklists and meetings with rugby coaches) it's hardly impressive. Some good performances at the Confeds Cup would top the balance back in his favour but we're not there yet.