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Posted October 07, 2017 08:55 · last edited October 07, 2017 09:04

coochiee wrote:

aitkenmike wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Agree with a fair amount of what Khalil states, but his description of people on this forum as generally half full types raised a chuckle

There a lot of posts on here are along lines of... 'we going to get slaughtered by 5th SA side and it's all Hudson's fault'. Those are not posts of cheerful, optimistic folks.

I expect once Hudson's gone the new coach will just get the same abuse, because in all likelihood the results won't be any better. Esp if he also has a funny voice/pointy shoes/keeps company with Tony Veitch or some other sin. Actually the last one is a sin

I don't think that anyone has said that ever.  It's been said a lot that it's not about the results - we will likely almost always beat the island nations, and depending on the draw, lose in the playoffs.  If results are all we judge the manager on then we would judge Sir Alex Fergusson and Mike Basset as equally competent managers were they in charge of New Zealand.  What most judge him on are the performances put out by the team, and how the tactics matches the talk he puts out of how we theoretically should be playing (and also on his mastery of self promotion).

People have definitely spouted those comments on here. Often admittedly during an AWs actual game when things have not been going well, and keyboard passions can run high. But still said all the same

Having just had a reread of the first 10 or so pages, a number of us thought he was talking porkies then, myself included.  It’s nice to see that in the whole we have been vindicated by performances, results and his narcissism, so evident in his British media dealings and wiki page.

We all know that the class of ‘82 left the AWs and NZF in general in a bit of a state which needed cleaning up which Hudson, and quite likely Emblen too, have carried out.  But have our results improved, has our style improved, did he find anyone out there who was a complete unknown apart from Van Den Broek who was not a youngster?  No.

Ricki and a few others knew about Themi and Marinovic but chose to ignore them and there doesn’t seem to have been any major attempt at returning Fitzgerald to the side.

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coochiee wrote:
aitkenmike wrote:
coochiee wrote:

Agree with a fair amount of what Khalil states, but his description of people on this forum as generally half full types raised a chuckle

There a lot of posts on here are along lines of... 'we going to get slaughtered by 5th SA side and it's all Hudson's fault'. Those are not posts of cheerful, optimistic folks.

I expect once Hudson's gone the new coach will just get the same abuse, because in all likelihood the results won't be any better. Esp if he also has a funny voice/pointy shoes/keeps company with Tony Veitch or some other sin. Actually the last one is a sin

I don't think that anyone has said that ever.  It's been said a lot that it's not about the results - we will likely almost always beat the island nations, and depending on the draw, lose in the playoffs.  If results are all we judge the manager on then we would judge Sir Alex Fergusson and Mike Basset as equally competent managers were they in charge of New Zealand.  What most judge him on are the performances put out by the team, and how the tactics matches the talk he puts out of how we theoretically should be playing (and also on his mastery of self promotion).

People have definitely spouted those comments on here. Often admittedly during an AWs actual game when things have not been going well, and keyboard passions can run high. But still said all the same

Having just had a reread of the first 10 or so pages, a number of us thought he was talking porkies then, myself included.  It’s nice to see that in the whole we have been vindicated by his narcissism, which is so evident in his British media dealings and wiki page.