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Posted November 23, 2017 08:24 · last edited November 23, 2017 08:28

james dean wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Oska wrote:

Also, I don't think any player's feelings towards a manager are a particularly good proxy for how good they are at getting good results.

Have you ever played a team sport? If you have you will have known, when you have had a good coach, and when you have had a sharkhouse one. 

Players shouldn’t yes be the sole judge of a coach, but they are a very important one. No one on this forum, whether they rate Hudson or despise him, would come close to having the knowledge of Hudson’s coaching abilities as the actual AWs players of the last 3-4 years.

All of these guys are in pro football environments - some very high level - and will all have been exposed to good and bad gaffers. They will know whether AH was fit for the job or not. Now that he is highly likely leaving they (Brockie, Durante, Roux, Falloon etc) don’t have crawl up his arse if they don’t want to.

Andrew Voerman (Stuff) has made some good points on this topic.  Hudson has had a far bigger budget and more resources so no doubt in my mind some of this stuff is just the players enjoying the AWs environment a lot more because the set up is just more professional.  That was never really anything to do with Hudson (other than him asking for more money).

Many people have credited this to Hudson but how do we know? In actual fact it might have been Martin and others who did this. 

Many here are quick to slap Martin down but from what I’ve seen, a lot is without substance.  He’s blamed by all for the Olympics fiasco (i think I might have as well) but surely that was someone else’s job to sort.  That person royally f**ked up so Martin should have sacked him (maybe he did, again who knows).

Anyways C U Hudson.  I look forward to seeing you sign on the dole que here in London very soon as I’m sure you’ll be found out... yet again.

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james dean wrote:
coochiee wrote:
Oska wrote:

Also, I don't think any player's feelings towards a manager are a particularly good proxy for how good they are at getting good results.

Have you ever played a team sport? If you have you will have known, when you have had a good coach, and when you have had a sharkhouse one. 

Players shouldn’t yes be the sole judge of a coach, but they are a very important one. No one on this forum, whether they rate Hudson or despise him, would come close to having the knowledge of Hudson’s coaching abilities as the actual AWs players of the last 3-4 years.

All of these guys are in pro football environments - some very high level - and will all have been exposed to good and bad gaffers. They will know whether AH was fit for the job or not. Now that he is highly likely leaving they (Brockie, Durante, Roux, Falloon etc) don’t have crawl up his arse if they don’t want to.

Andrew Voerman (Stuff) has made some good points on this topic.  Hudson has had a far bigger budget and more resources so no doubt in my mind some of this stuff is just the players enjoying the AWs environment a lot more because the set up is just more professional.  That was never really anything to do with Hudson (other than him asking for more money).

Many people have credited this to Hudson but how do we know if in actual fact it was Martin who do this?  Many here are quick to slap him down but from what I’ve seen, a lot is without substance.  He’s blamed by all for the Olympics fiasco (i think I might have as well) but surely that was someone else’s job to sort.  That person royally f**ked up so Martin should have sacked him (maybe he did, again who knows).

Anyways C U Hudson.  I look forward to seeing you sign on the dole que here in London very soon as I’m sure you’ll be found out... yet again.