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Posted October 29, 2018 23:56 · last edited October 29, 2018 23:58

ColeWorld wrote:

james dean wrote:

paulm wrote:

There were more than enough direct quotes from the players to confirm that knowledge, it was very clear. 

What player ever criticises their coach in public?

Theres a difference. Criticising a coach in public is very rare, however praising a coach in the public is not common. The fact that a number of players spoke out positively, both publicly and privately, about Hudson, speaks volumes.

There is no debating he has had a shocking first season in Colorado, however the hatred from many towards him on this thread is a little over the top IMO. Call him a con man as much as you want, but he almost got us to the World Cup with arguably our best player barely hobbling around the pitch. That Peru playoff was 10x better to watch than the Mexico one

At the risk of reopening a whole can of worms, it's misleading to just compare Hudson with Ricki in games 4 years apart. We had the home leg first vs Peru which meant that we could stick with a defensive game plan longer across both legs for a start, and ultimately despite the differences the end result was the same anyway. Also you mention our best player hobbling around the pitch but in 2014 Reid wasn't even available for the playoff games. But the bigger issue is just accepting that improvement from late-Ricki era performances was enough, or that there was a binary Herbert/Hudson option rather than other possibilities (Emblen, others). The what if question for me is what if Hudson hadn't spent a couple of seasons chopping and changing and picking random kids and talking up an attacking passing game while playing disjointed defensive long ball tactics? What if he'd let a core group of players get used to playing one set of tactics together for a few years, which is what he said he would do when he came in (remember the PowerPoint?).

I was pleasantly surprised at how well we did against Peru but I don't think that gives him a free pass for all the other stuff.

And ultimately I think the disconnect between how he presented himself and how he talked about the game vs what happened on the pitch is why people don't like him(combined with the self-promotion stuff). People generally don't like people who obviously bullshark. Maybe he was different with the players but his public persona (which he seemed to enjoy cultivating) was very unlikeable.

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ColeWorld wrote:
james dean wrote:
paulm wrote:

There were more than enough direct quotes from the players to confirm that knowledge, it was very clear. 

What player ever criticises their coach in public?

Theres a difference. Criticising a coach in public is very rare, however praising a coach in the public is not common. The fact that a number of players spoke out positively, both publicly and privately, about Hudson, speaks volumes.

There is no debating he has had a shocking first season in Colorado, however the hatred from many towards him on this thread is a little over the top IMO. Call him a con man as much as you want, but he almost got us to the World Cup with arguably our best player barely hobbling around the pitch. That Peru playoff was 10x better to watch than the Mexico one

At the risk of reopening a whole can of worms, it's misleading to just compare Hudson with Ricki in games 4 years apart. We had the home leg first vs Peru which meant that we could stick with a defensive game plan longer across both legs for a start, and ultimately despite the differences the end result was the same anyway. Also you mention our best player hobbling around the pitch but in 2014 Reid wasn't even available for the playoff games. But the bigger issue is just accepting that improvement from late-Ricki era performances was enough, or that there was a binary Herbert/Hudson option rather than other possibilities (Emblen, others). The what if question for me is what if Hudson hadn't spent a couple of seasons chopping and changing and picking random kids and talking up an attacking passing game will playing disjointed defensive long ball tactics? What if he'd let a core group of players get used to playing one set of tactics together for a few years, which is what he said he would do when he came in (remember the PowerPoint?).

I was pleasantly surprised at how well we did against Peru but I don't think that gives him a free pass for all the other stuff.

And ultimately I think the disconnect between how he presented himself and how he talked about the game vs what happened on the pitch is why people don't like him(combined with the self-promotion stuff). People generally don't like people who obviously bullshark. Maybe he was different with the players but his public persona (which he seemed to enjoy cultivating) was very unlikeable.

Unknown editor edited October 29, 2018 23:57
ColeWorld wrote:
james dean wrote:
paulm wrote:

There were more than enough direct quotes from the players to confirm that knowledge, it was very clear. 

What player ever criticises their coach in public?

Theres a difference. Criticising a coach in public is very rare, however praising a coach in the public is not common. The fact that a number of players spoke out positively, both publicly and privately, about Hudson, speaks volumes.

There is no debating he has had a shocking first season in Colorado, however the hatred from many towards him on this thread is a little over the top IMO. Call him a con man as much as you want, but he almost got us to the World Cup with arguably our best player barely hobbling around the pitch. That Peru playoff was 10x better to watch than the Mexico one

At the risk of reopening a whole can of worms, it's misleading to just compare Hudson with Ricki in games 4 years apart. We had the home leg first vs Peru which meant that we could stick with a defensive game plan longer across both legs for a start, and ultimately despite the differences the end result was the same anyway. Also you mention our best player hobbling around the pitch but in 2014 in 2014 Reid wasn't even available for the playoff games. But the bigger issue is just accepting that improvement from late-Ricki era performances was enough, or that there was a binary Herbert/Hudson option rather than other possibilities (Emblen, others). The what if question for me is what if Hudson hadn't spent a couple of seasons chopping and changing and picking random kids and talking up an attacking passing game will playing disjointed defensive long ball tactics? What if he'd let a core group of players get used to playing one set of tactics together for a few years, which is what he said he would do when he came in (remember the PowerPoint?).

I was pleasantly surprised at how well we did against Peru but I don't think that gives him a free pass for all the other stuff.

And ultimately I think the disconnect between how he presented himself and how he talked about the game vs what happened on the pitch is why people don't like him(combined with the self-promotion stuff). People generally don't like people who obviously bullshark. Maybe he was different with the players but his public persona (which he seemed to enjoy cultivating) was very unlikeable.