I see that River Plate are in a relegation play-off and are down 2-0 after the first leg 
For those who don't know Argentina has probably the most twisted system in protecting big clubs from being relegated.
For those who don't know Argentina has probably the most twisted system in protecting big clubs from being relegated.
Relegation is based on an averaging system. At the end of each season, the two teams with the worst three-year averages are relegated, and the best two teams in the Primera B Nacional are promoted. The teams placed 17th and 18th in the average table play in a promotion/relegation playoff against the 4th and 3rd placed Primera B Nacional teams, respectively, in a two-tie decided on aggregate goals. Thus, the number of teams promoted each year varies between two and four. Newly-promoted teams only average the seasons since their last promotion.
Averaging was instituted in 1983, two years after San Lorenzo de Almagro were relegated in 1981. That year, River Plate finished 18th out of 19 teams and would have been relegated under the old system. Racing and Nueva Chicago were the first teams to be relegated on average. Boca Juniors was also struggling at that time and had a dismal 1984 season. These facts have led some to speculate that the averaging system was instituted to minimize the chance of large clubs being relegated, and indeed none of the five clubs considered to be the largest has been relegated again after 1983.[/quote]
And on top of that; in the case of a play-off relegation contest resulting in a tie, it seems that instead of deciding on away goals the team from the higher division won't be relegated
[quote="River world collapses, tension mounts up"]On Sunday's return leg in Buenos Aires, River will survive with an aggregate draw as the result favours first division sides.
Averaging was instituted in 1983, two years after San Lorenzo de Almagro were relegated in 1981. That year, River Plate finished 18th out of 19 teams and would have been relegated under the old system. Racing and Nueva Chicago were the first teams to be relegated on average. Boca Juniors was also struggling at that time and had a dismal 1984 season. These facts have led some to speculate that the averaging system was instituted to minimize the chance of large clubs being relegated, and indeed none of the five clubs considered to be the largest has been relegated again after 1983.[/quote]
And on top of that; in the case of a play-off relegation contest resulting in a tie, it seems that instead of deciding on away goals the team from the higher division won't be relegated
[quote="River world collapses, tension mounts up"]On Sunday's return leg in Buenos Aires, River will survive with an aggregate draw as the result favours first division sides.
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And it's official - River Plate are down. Lolz.
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Just reading about this, looks like River are in a desperate situation - club in dire financial straits, players not paid for a year, and a wholesale of players to follow.
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River Plate. Sampdoria. Monaco. Deportivo. All relegated in the same year. How sad.
Three for me, and two for them.
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River Plate. Sampdoria. Monaco. Deportivo. All relegated in the same year. How sad.
If you're being serious, then I agree. Generally don't like to see historical clubs struggling so badly.
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River Plate. Sampdoria. Monaco. Deportivo. All relegated in the same year. How sad.
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If you're being serious, then I agree. Generally don't like to see historical clubs struggling so badly.
I am serious. When I was growing up watching football Monaco and Depor in particular were good teams and played some great football (who can forget the 8-3 CL match they played in 03?). Sampdoria have long been an FM players' favourite, although they were at their best when i was only a baby.
Thing is when you look at their individual situations they all deserve to go down too. Hopefully they bounce back soon.
Three for me, and two for them.
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I am not particularly sad about River's case. I'm sure some serious lobbying by the big clubs in Argentina and the $ involved resulted in their absurd relegation system that was supposed to protect them from relegation. If they had a normal promotion/relegation system they and Boca would have both been relegated at least once in the past 25+ years the system has been in place.
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