Some very good players there. And some not so good.
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seven players to cut yet. sometimes i wonder why they start off with 30 before picking a final 23. surely they already have a good idea who's made it. only thing i can thing of is 50/50 injured players
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seven players to cut yet. sometimes i wonder why they start off with 30 before picking a final 23. surely they already have a good idea who's made it. only thing i can thing of is 50/50 injured players
Yeah, it because that there are depth of players as well as players in near recovery of injuries, therefore having a final 23 cut off date near to the time is more dependent on form after a while. This squad obviously includes the 7 standby players to the 23 final players. I find it a fair approach as it keeps players on their toes until the submission date and gives the most chances for players to stake their claims.
However in cases like New Zealand, where we have all our best players fit and healthy we don't have the depth of players as well as players at different playing levels/leagues and only so much specialised position players in our small pool that it was far easier to make the decision. As it is, we will probably use about 16 of the 23 players in the three games with some regular use.
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I dont believe we should have the "biggest expectations but poorest results" title. England certainly takes the cake there...
England has the most consist World Cup results. They always being at least quarter finalist. Hardly poor at all.
They would be "consistently in the knockouts stages but never progressing further to their own expectations."
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I dont believe we should have the "biggest expectations but poorest results" title. England certainly takes the cake there...
England has the most consist World Cup results. They always being at least quarter finalist. Hardly poor at all.
They would be "consistently in the knockouts stages but never progressing further to their own expectations."
England was in the quarters the last two times, but would hardly call them consistent quarter-finalists.
Also reached the semis only twice in their history. Hardly an enviable record considering the expectations attached to English World Cup performances since the WW2.
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I dunno:Q/finals in '54,'62,'70,'82(the 2nd rd was essentially the old Q/final stage),'86,'02,'06:that seems to indicate they are in the mix,but fail to kick on.
As for the Dutch,their defence may be the weakness:they'll score a few goals,but leak a couple too,maybe at a crucial time.I like the way they play wingers and try to get at teams down the flanks.Good news having Van Persie back;he adds plenty to their team.
As for the Dutch,their defence may be the weakness:they'll score a few goals,but leak a couple too,maybe at a crucial time.I like the way they play wingers and try to get at teams down the flanks.Good news having Van Persie back;he adds plenty to their team.
"Always remember lads,one Evertonian is worth 20 Liverpudlians"...Brian Labone
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9 QF appearances (including 1966 and 1990) out of 15 tournaments held in the time.
Is that consistent? Dunno. But surely England ought to have won more than just 2 Quarterfinals.
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Van Persie makes a huge difference to both Arsenal and Oranje. When he's fit for about 5 minutes every season. What odds he'll star in the group stages, and then break down on the eve of the knock-out rounds...
Is that consistent? Dunno. But surely England ought to have won more than just 2 Quarterfinals.
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Van Persie makes a huge difference to both Arsenal and Oranje. When he's fit for about 5 minutes every season. What odds he'll star in the group stages, and then break down on the eve of the knock-out rounds...
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Two QF wins, two Ipswich managers.
Just saying.
Just saying.
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seven players to cut yet. sometimes i wonder why they start off with 30 before picking a final 23. surely they already have a good idea who's made it. only thing i can thing of is 50/50 injured players
Yeah, it because that there are depth of players as well as players in near recovery of injuries, therefore having a final 23 cut off date near to the time is more dependent on form after a while. This squad obviously includes the 7 standby players to the 23 final players. I find it a fair approach as it keeps players on their toes until the submission date and gives the most chances for players to stake their claims.
However in cases like New Zealand, where we have all our best players fit and healthy we don't have the depth of players as well as players at different playing levels/leagues and only so much specialised position players in our small pool that it was far easier to make the decision. As it is, we will probably use about 16 of the 23 players in the three games with some regular use.
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this is the oranje's thread btw people.
Poms: http://www.yellowfever.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11115&PN=6
Poms: http://www.yellowfever.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11115&PN=6
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Thought RVN will get his chance, at least in 30 men trials. Seems his move to Hamburg hasn't paid off as he wanted it to. Shame, have a big respect for this player.
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saw these today. have decided i cannot go without.
http://www.nike.com/nikefootball/teams/holland?locale=en__EMEATopLeft072010-05-21 19:26:16
http://www.nike.com/nikefootball/teams/holland?locale=en__EMEATopLeft072010-05-21 19:26:16
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Saw Dutch shirts and jackets at Rebel.
They are the secks.
They are the secks.
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interesting to read in Dom that Van Persie and 3 others (Robben etc) are talking themselves up as the best options as a unit up front
seems like history repeating in the Dutch camp
seems like history repeating in the Dutch camp
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Saw Dutch shirts and jackets at Rebel.
They are the secks.
yeah they are outstanding They are the secks.
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interesting to read in Dom that Van Persie and 3 others (Robben etc) are talking themselves up as the best options as a unit up front
seems like history repeating in the Dutch camp
yeah i thought that was odd. trying to talk his way into the starting team? he wasn't a regular started at Arsenal this season was he? maybe he's a bit worriedseems like history repeating in the Dutch camp
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interesting to read in Dom that Van Persie and 3 others (Robben etc) are talking themselves up as the best options as a unit up front
seems like history repeating in the Dutch camp
yeah i thought that was odd. trying to talk his way into the starting team? he wasn't a regular started at Arsenal this season was he? maybe he's a bit worried
seems like history repeating in the Dutch camp
Yes he was. Apart from when injured.
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interesting to read in Dom that Van Persie and 3 others (Robben etc) are talking themselves up as the best options as a unit up front
seems like history repeating in the Dutch camp
yeah i thought that was odd. trying to talk his way into the starting team? he wasn't a regular started at Arsenal this season was he? maybe he's a bit worried
seems like history repeating in the Dutch camp
Yes he was. Apart from when injured.
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well he did the first couple of matches back from injury.
I wonder if RVP, Robben and Wesley will fight over who takes free kicks
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RvP with a double this morning over Mexico.
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The Dutch final squad of 23 has been announced:
Goalkeepers: Maarten Stekelenburg (Ajax), Michel Vorm (Utrecht), Sander Boschker (Twente).
Defenders: Gregory van der Wiel (Ajax), Khalid Boulahrouz (Stuttgart), John Heitinga (Everton), Joris Mathijsen (Hamburg), Giovanni van Bronckhorst (Feyenoord), Edson Braafheid (Bayern), Andre Ooijer (PSV).
Midfielders: Demy de Zeeuw (Ajax), Wesley Sneijder (Inter), Rafael van der Vaart (Real Madrid), Ibrahim Afellay (PSV), Mark van Bommel (Bayern), Nigel de Jong (Manchester City), Stijn Schaars (AZ Alkmaar).
Forwards: Arjen Robben (Bayern), Dirk Kuyt (Liverpool), Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (Milan), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Ryan Babel (Liverpool), Eljero Elia (Hamburg).
Goalkeepers: Maarten Stekelenburg (Ajax), Michel Vorm (Utrecht), Sander Boschker (Twente).
Defenders: Gregory van der Wiel (Ajax), Khalid Boulahrouz (Stuttgart), John Heitinga (Everton), Joris Mathijsen (Hamburg), Giovanni van Bronckhorst (Feyenoord), Edson Braafheid (Bayern), Andre Ooijer (PSV).
Midfielders: Demy de Zeeuw (Ajax), Wesley Sneijder (Inter), Rafael van der Vaart (Real Madrid), Ibrahim Afellay (PSV), Mark van Bommel (Bayern), Nigel de Jong (Manchester City), Stijn Schaars (AZ Alkmaar).
Forwards: Arjen Robben (Bayern), Dirk Kuyt (Liverpool), Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (Milan), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Ryan Babel (Liverpool), Eljero Elia (Hamburg).
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how good has boulharouz been playing?
i know when we had khalid the cannibal at chelsea he wasnt too flash
i know when we had khalid the cannibal at chelsea he wasnt too flash
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Convincing win over Ghana this morning. A result I would expect to be honest. Sneijder's goal was class. Anyone watch the full game?
I seam to remember a lot more KNVB fans on here during Euro, IRRC.
I seam to remember a lot more KNVB fans on here during Euro, IRRC.
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was my pick for player of tournamentFuck this stupid game
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Hopefully he's alright. Just beat Hungary 6-1. Won a bit of money off that.
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Yeah hoping like f**k he's ok. Seen the Netherlands killing it like this pre/early tournament before but go on to choke, hoping they have learned from that and step up to the big games.
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Yeah hoping like f**k he's ok. Seen the Netherlands killing it like this pre/early tournament before but go on to choke, hoping they have learned from that and step up to the big games.
lol we always learn from our mistakes, that's how we're able to replicate them so perfectly every 4 years!
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Yeah hoping like f**k he's ok. Seen the Netherlands killing it like this pre/early tournament before but go on to choke, hoping they have learned from that and step up to the big games.
lol we always learn from our mistakes, that's how we're able to replicate them so perfectly every 4 years!
However, not looking good
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Read lately Robben is desperate like hell to recover for WC games. See him playing in knock out stage of the tournament, Netherlands should be fine in group, even without him.
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"Hup Holland hup
Laat de leeuw niet in z'n hempie staan
Hup Holland hup
Trek het beessie geen pantoffels aan
Hup Holland hup
Laat je uit 't veld niet slaan
Want de leeuw op voetbalschoenen
Durft de hele wereld aanUberGunner2010-06-14 15:59:14
Laat de leeuw niet in z'n hempie staan
Hup Holland hup
Trek het beessie geen pantoffels aan
Hup Holland hup
Laat je uit 't veld niet slaan
Want de leeuw op voetbalschoenen
Durft de hele wereld aanUberGunner2010-06-14 15:59:14
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yeah that's pretty awesome...but we're never going to be able to hear it, thanks to the vuvuzelas
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F*CKK YEEAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! F*CK OFF BRAZIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ORANJE BOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This cup is ours baby
keep our heads down, keep it tight at the back and we can dispose of ghana or uruguay
if we can hit the final it's a one-off chance, we've got the right temperament and attitude to ride out the big games, we can do this
ORANJE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RVP was sh*te again and even Robben was pretty poor compared to usual, he needs to be a bit smarter. Ooijer was shaky in the first half which is probably to be expected but he had an excellent second half. Sneijder, Kuyt, Van Bommel, Stekelenburg were all outstanding. Van Bronckhorst, Van der Wiel, had solid games.
Nederland com op!!! Wereld kampioen tweeduizend tien!!!!
Nederland com op!!! Wereld kampioen tweeduizend tien!!!!
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Dutch had a great chance to score in the first half. 2 on 2 (plus goalie further back) and Robben had to turn onto his left foot. I predicted it, the defender predicted it, and he was tackled. Gone with his right and he could've at least got a shot off.
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uruguay have had 120 sapping minutes plus a mentally draining penalty shootout
we've got a cupla key players out suspended but uruguay are atleast missing suarez
we can do this
if we can do it then thank f*ck we'd only have to play one out of spain, argentina and germany after that!
paulm2010-07-03 12:38:46
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