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It's not soccer!

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It's not soccer!
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Does it irk anyone else that even though the National Fed. has changed it's name, the Dom Post (see front page) still calls it soccer? We're not America!

Reckon we can get in behind and tell em to call it what it is?
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actually i still like it, bugger blatters & his ilk ..it's a kiwi pod & a powerful statement about socks
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BlueBoots wrote:
Does it irk anyone else that even though the National Fed. has changed it's name, the Dom Post (see front page) still calls it soccer? We're not America!

Reckon we can get in behind and tell em to call it what it is?
 
there was a thread on this a while back,
 
I reckon those of us that want our game to be called football should use this opportuniy to call it football!,
 
now the Phoenix is starting to mean something to anyone with a tV, radio, newspaper, web acess, ears, eyes, etc etc
 
then this is the time to use the word "football" to mean the greatest game in the known universe
 
"sh*t the football was magic, the Phoenix are unreal...."
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You obviously never read the sports pages of the Dominion Post - try doing so today and you won't see soccer mentioned once.
They were the first media to change to football in about the middle of last year. Must have been a non-sports writer who did that bit on the front page today.
C.f Herald which still calls it soccer.
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FOOTBALL
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Radio Sport good calling it football this morning, but they definitely fall back into the "soccer" trap at times as well, just got to use it and demand it to be called football on any tv/radio interviews etc, no surrender to those egg chasers!

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Exactly :) I always use it in conversations, though I find myself slipping into soccer too, when talking with the kids bout their matches (which are still called soccer matches by their schools etc). If the Dom Post did use football in the sports pages I apologise, as a working person I don't have the leisure time to read the whole paper, I just saw the front page on my way to work this morning. They should have picked up on that discrepancy in the proof. Could we do a media write in? Get all the papers/tv/radio etc to remind their announcers/journos to switch to football? Yellow power anyone?

Whoops, boss over my shoulder :)
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I'm over the whole thing.  Let them call it what they want... it's still our game dominating the whole of the Dom Post.

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Cripes HN, when did you get all mellow and philosophical?

Guy.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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FITBA  FITBA  FITBA everybody kens that!!

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It's in the Fairfax style now to call it football, and you will see all Fairfax newspapers in this country and Australia, calling it football (the Dompost and stuff website are owned by Fairfax).
There is an exception and that is the Melbourne Age, but there the main sport is Australian Football and so they still call it soccer - and to some extent that is understandable.
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the Dom Post calls it football in the results page now, which is good
I like tautologies because I like them.
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*foot�ball (fŏŏt'b�l')
A team sport played between two teams of 11 players each. It is widely considered to be the most popular sport in the world. A ball game, it is played on a rectangular grass field, or occasionally on artificial turf, with a goal at each end of the field. The object of the game is to score by manoeuvring the ball into the opposing goal.


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Simply put, one plays with the FOOT and BALL. A Rocket Scientist might deduce from this that the most obvious name to give to this very simple game, played by very simple people, but involving the most complicated of potential moves should be referred to as FOOTBALL. None of this  patronising misuse of the English language, or was this started by the 'other' codes of winter frivolity
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danny wrote:

*foot�ball (fŏŏt'b�l')
A team sport played between two teams of 11 players each. It is widely considered to be the most popular sport in the world. A ball game, it is played on a rectangular grass field, or occasionally on artificial turf, with a goal at each end of the field. The object of the game is to score by manoeuvring the ball into the opposing goal.
 
Hmmm.  That looks familiar, real familiar.  It looks a lot like this game . . .
 
soc�cer  (skr)
n.
A game played on a rectangular field with net goals at either end in which two teams of 11 players each try to drive a ball into the other's goal by kicking, heading, or using any part of the body except the arms and hands. The goalie is the only player who may touch or move the ball with the arms or hands.
 
 
Maybe we can have another thread on this topic next week; there's always room for debating the irrelevant difference between soccer, football, futbol and kick (calcio).
 
 
 
El Bombero4512007-09-05 17:24:24
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Hey did yall see the news? Note how our women's team is now the:

FOOTBALL Ferns?
And not, funnily enough, the Soccer Ferns?

Good progress methinks.
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im glad its called football here now, soccer sounds so american, it's just not football!!
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One of the ground announcers (during the half time entertainment) at the last home game waffled on using the "s" word at least three times - the only option for me was to stand up and yell - "It's Football stupid".

Over to us to correct the misguided fools that use the "S" word....
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the term soccer is best used when wanting to wind up those pommy mates who lose their rag when you use it!

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All together now:
 
There's only one name for football
One name for fooootball
There's only one name for football.

 

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the socks are dead, the socks are dead ..long live the socks ..
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I still say soccer when talking to mates etc. because thats what everyone in NZ/Aussie knows it by. I've never really cared what we call it as it's the same game. People get way too worked up over it.
valeo2007-09-05 20:14:05

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i think the term 'soccer mom' and the connotations it has in the US has made soccer sound a bit soft, as opposed to football which has connotations of Scottish fans hitting each other with crowbars. Wait that should be 'fitba' like in transpotting
I like tautologies because I like them.
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lets all call it football after all its the beautifull game and all that so lets get with most of the world and not those damnd yankees and give it its proper name scottie312007-09-05 23:09:59
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Yeah Relax.
 
Differnt names same sport. No biggie.
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I get a little irked when soccer is used instead of football but as Rugby has been the default game in this country for a long time, and as watching a Rugby game here has often been referred to as "watching the football", I'm not all that bothered by the americanised soccer name.  Try telling the Victorians that Aussie rules is not footy.

What gets me is NZers need to give our national teams nicknames.  Sure the All Blacks was a good one that came about naturally a 100 odd years ago but the All Whites, that's just stupid.
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Yeah and now the NZ womens football team is called the White Ferns. When will it end? OUr national equestrian team might start calling themselve the Black Helmets, and our beach volley ball team the Black Thongs UberGunner2007-09-06 09:42:08
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Um, if you note, the NZ Women's team is the 'Football Ferns'. We already have a white ferns, thanks.
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BlueBoots wrote:
Hey did yall see the news? Note how our women's team is now the:

FOOTBALL Ferns?
And not, funnily enough, the Soccer Ferns?

Good progress methinks.
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Sorry, so many nicknames to keep track off, who are the white ferns then?
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They're our National Cricket team, and it's an official name (like the All Blacks). We've won the series, but you probably wouldn't have noticed as they forgot to mention it on the news. (Bastards.)

http://www.nzcricket.co.nz/display.aspx?pri=19&sec=71&cid=9321&provider=0&tpl=0

Hell, we won the world cup in 2000 but I bet you didn't know that either? You'd be amazed at how many winners we've got in this country, but as they're women you just wouldn't know...
http://www.nzcricket.co.nz/display.aspx?ss=world%20cup&pri=19&sec=71&cid=4106&tpl=0
BlueBoots2007-09-06 09:57:10
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You are right, if it wasnt for the fact that Emma Humphries used to work at the Backbencher I usually wouldnt have paid much attention to the "Football Ferns"  either.
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Is it our national insecurity that we can't just call our international teams 'New Zealand' and need to come up with dodgy names, or is it all about marketing?  Fair play to the All Blacks - that's historical and has real mana about it, but as for the rest....oh, except the badminton boys - they're just havin a laugh!  Good on 'em.

 
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The name All Whites was first conjured for the 1982 team (actually before 1982 but at the beginning of that campaign). Somewhere in the vaults of some radio station is a song, sung by the original All Whites - which includes the Gaffer, Ricki, singing "We're the All Whites, we're New Zealand's FOOTBALL team." For auld timers like myself, there is a more than an ounce of fondness for the name.
It precedes almost all the other NZ teams nicknames, even the Silver Ferns.
So newbies, back off.
 
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on the stupid nicknames topic how about the nz national badmington team they call themselves the blackcocks???????? wats with that thats just asking for abuse but hey each to their own with abusing cocks?
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The NZ American Football Team (yes there is one) is called the "Iron Blacks" - and seeing some of the size of those boys (played American Football with some of them) you would understand why......hard as f**k.
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not get worked up about it? for me i say both.. when i say football i get told "bla bla bla its soccer bla bla bla" far as im concerned it's football, new zealand poofs
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:) Yeah, all points noted. By best two kiwi friends call it soccer and say it's a poofter game. I say call it football, a hard mans game!
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