As far as I'm concerned, the performances of most of the refs at this tournament have really caused many games to become disjointed, and are having way too much of an influence on the game, especially with the dishing out of yellow cards, causing players to miss games or be sent off for minor indiscretions.
Germany got two yellows (both justified) for diving against Australia. Apart from that, nothing.
Incredibly petulant, was very disappointed with him when watching it all unfold.
As far as I'm concerned, the performances of most of the refs at this tournament have really caused many games to become disjointed, and are having way too much of an influence on the game, especially with the dishing out of yellow cards, causing players to miss games or be sent off for minor indiscretions.

on that basis c ronaldo would be lucky to see out a single half of football for the rest of his career
Commentators often look for whether contact was made, however the worst simulations are often where minor offences are made out to look like like major life-threatening offences (to dupe a referee into booking an opponent, or into making a 'big' decision - eg penalty). Hence a minor offence that might otherwise go unnoticed (eg shirt pull in the box) might get the big call. Very tricky for referees because such an incident may well indeed a foul and punishable by a penalty. However, if they pinged every shirt pull in the box there would be an awful lot of penalties per game (aside: maybe that's what needs to happen for a time!).
I think there is a case for our Guatemalan friend to award the penalty to Italy (because, yes, by the laws of the game it was), and then book De Rossi for simulation (or being an arse). That would have been interesting!
I would be interested to know if one can be booked for play acting (=simulation), even when contact is made, because my observation is that the worst play-acting is often after a modest foul (or even legal contact). Witness the Kaka incident.
And it is a blight on the game.
Edit: FYI, Wording from the Laws of the game "... a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour, e.g. if a player: (inter alia)attempts to deceive the referee by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)"
Still not clear in the De Rossi case (exaggerated behaviour attempting to influence the referee).Turfmoore2010-06-22 22:38:16
I know, I know, its serious!
therefore it would be fairly easy to decide that he'd brought the game into disrepute and then slam him with a six week ban
players would then stop cheating in that way
yes, he was being a right little arrogant twat leading up to that. seemed to have a smirk on his face after the red aswel as if he knew it was coming
therefore it would be fairly easy to decide that he'd brought the game into disrepute and then slam him with a six week ban
players would then stop cheating in that way
responsibility also lies with Managers who consistently select players who seemingly have reckless disregard for the rules. All it takes is a hard line 'in-house' about how you conduct yourself on the field and the respect you should so to the ref and your opposition.
Selection of divers, whingers and cheats says the Manager believes and encourages those tactics.
E's Flat Ah's Flat Too
on that basis c ronaldo would be lucky to see out a single half of football for the rest of his career
CR can be a drama queen, but I've never seen him behave the way Kaka did in those 5 minutes leading up to his send-off.
Commentators often look for whether contact was made, however the worst simulations are often where minor offences are made out to look like like major life-threatening offences (to dupe a referee into booking an opponent, or into making a 'big' decision - eg penalty). Hence a minor offence that might otherwise go unnoticed (eg shirt pull in the box) might get the big call. Very tricky for referees because such an incident may well indeed a foul and punishable by a penalty. However, if they pinged every shirt pull in the box there would be an awful lot of penalties per game (aside: maybe that's what needs to happen for a time!).
I think there is a case for our Guatemalan friend to award the penalty to Italy (because, yes, by the laws of the game it was), and then book De Rossi for simulation (or being an arse). That would have been interesting!
I would be interested to know if one can be booked for play acting (=simulation), even when contact is made, because my observation is that the worst play-acting is often after a modest foul (or even legal contact). Witness the Kaka incident.
And it is a blight on the game.
Edit: FYI, Wording from the Laws of the game "... a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour, e.g. if a player: (inter alia)attempts to deceive the referee by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)"
Still not clear in the De Rossi case (exaggerated behaviour attempting to influence the referee).
You've pretty much arrived at the central problem of the 'diving' and 'simulation' issue. Obvious dives where there is no contact or clear foul are actually fairly rare and pretty easy to spot. The problem is that in many cases, the 'dive' is pulled out after a genuine foul to ensure the player gets the call (or more cynically to perhaps win a penalty or get an opponent booked). And this is incredibly difficult to police both on and off the field (in terms of video replays).
I have seen guidelines to referees (can't remember whether from the FA or UEFA) on how to spot 'simulation' (including looking at the body shape and position purportedly falling after being fouled), and while they are useful, they don't resolve the fundamental problem you've mentioned.
In the case of it leading to a goal in a league match it should also lead to a deduction of that goal - with appropriate change to match result and points as a consequence. That would knock back the culture of cheating that is polluting so many leagues and the image opf football. Hopefully that might reduce it cropping up in tournaments like the World Cup so much. And it needs video back-up for refs there as well - Rugby and League etc have it all over football with use of the video ref. It really is a no-brainer...
therefore it would be fairly easy to decide that he'd brought the game into disrepute and then slam him with a six week ban
players would then stop cheating in that way
managers will select them (except for noble Sir Ricki of Herbert)-so it's up to fifa and the national associations to sort it out
if fans boo-ed their own players for diving that might make managers and financial officers/ceos think twice - but realistically it has to be controlled by the governing bodies
re refs spotting dives, perhaps the offending players could be tasered as part of their punishment and videos taken and compared to vids of real fouls
just to help the refs do their job, of course
Three for me, and two for them.
With Lampards shot at goal - you cannot expect the A/R to run at the same speed as the shot. Looking at the footage, the A/R is about 17 yds out, in line with the 2nd last German defender when Lampard took his shot, the A/R had already checked his run towards the goal, as had the defender from the intial blocking tackle as the ball looked like it was heading upfield again. So to expect the A/R to make up 17yds in about one second to be in line with the goal line to see whether it has crossed the line is ridiculous.
IMO then.
Argentina v Mexico - an example of poor officiating
England v Germany - one of the deficencies in game officiating at present - it's a well known conumdrum on how on earth A/Rs can be in a position to call the ball crossing the line of shots taken from a distance when the defence is quite high up the field.
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
three words for you - "rocket-propelled linos"
re refs spotting dives, perhaps the offending players could be tasered as part of their punishment and videos taken and compared to vids of real fouls
just to help the refs do their job, of course
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
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Sounds fairly spot on - if the defence are quite deep and marking attacking players and they're a distance from the attacking player with the ball - then it is quite tricky to keep track of the ball and the offside line, so other than only recruiting popeyed linos, yeah a tool of the trade is to listen for the ball being kicked.
Singing compared to vuvuzelas - Singing isn't constant nor as loud.
ginger_eejit2010-06-29 19:47:09
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
managers will select them (except for noble Sir Ricki of Herbert)-so it's up to fifa and the national associations to sort it out
managers will select them (except for noble Sir Ricki of Herbert)-so it's up to fifa and the national associations to sort it out
Controversial.For throwing himself all over the ground!
Love him though.