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Roy Keane Makes a lot of sense

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Roy Keane Makes a lot of sense
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yep, telling it like it is. 

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
love that journo getting a blasting and trying to make excuses good on you Roy but dirty French
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah, had to chuckle at Keane shredding the journo. But well said Roy.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

...it's not going to change, France are going to the World Cup, get over it.

 
You know we belong together...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yea wish it wasnt but i gota face it but im surre this will live on forever in irish minds about THAT hand ball
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well, I prefer France over Ireland so I'm happy they got through. Though I do like France a little less after the handball.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Well having quite a strong irish background i do not like seeing the french win in that way id rather go out fair and square

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Would hate to be the journo with the phone.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Interesting interview. Keane combines a pragmatic "it's done, defenders should have dealt with the ball better, get over it" with "another chance to stick the boot in on the FAI".
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
As an Ipswich Town supporter, I'd rather he concentrate on his day job
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I dont like Keane's attitude. He has for a long time seemed to want to distance himself from Irish football. Ireland were terribly hard done by, how can a fellow Irishman not sympathise. He's just being nasty.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ireland were terribly hard done by, how can a fellow Irishman not sympathise. He's just being nasty.


He just wants them to take some responsibility and stop being whiny little bitches. I applaud him for that.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
nah, they were cheated. they had a tough group, went toe to toe with Italy, then got the rough end of the stick when Fifa decided to seed the play-off draw, played really well in Paris, locked the tie up and were only denied by the most blatant hand ball and attrocious piece of refereeing. They did take responsibility throughout their campaign, played bloody well, footed it with a couple of the world's best sides and then got shafted. Fair enough to be bloody disgruntled and to whine. THey were seriously wronged and it had nothing to do with their performance on the field - so Keane can go take a jump.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah, but they're asking for replays and now going even as far as asking to be included as the 33rd team at the World Cup.

They need to move on.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
nah, they were cheated. they had a tough group, went toe to toe with Italy, then got the rough end of the stick when Fifa decided to seed the play-off draw, played really well in Paris, locked the tie up and were only denied by the most blatant hand ball and attrocious piece of refereeing. They did take responsibility throughout their campaign, played bloody well, footed it with a couple of the world's best sides and then got shafted. Fair enough to be bloody disgruntled and to whine. THey were seriously wronged and it had nothing to do with their performance on the field - so Keane can go take a jump.


Disagree. Firstly, the 'plucky' Ireland going toe to toe with Italy in atough group doesn't hold water. The only reason they were in the play-off in the first place is because of the most ridicuolus penalty I've ever seen against Georgia (which turned the game from 0-1 to 2-1 for Ireland in the last 15). It's on youtube, have a look at it of you want. They had no problem with a refereeing mistake then, but all of a sudden now they're the biggest victims since Apartheid. They weren't shafted with the seeding of the play-off - FIFA had seeded the playoffs for the 2006 World Cup, and gave no indication that they would change the procedure this time around. If Ireland wasn't aware of that, then that's again their problem. Finally, if they had indeed played that well in the playoff and 'deserved' to go the World Cup, all they had to do was score another goal, at any time during the 210 minutes of the tie, and none of this would have mattered. So whose fault is that? It's easy to blame everyone and everything, and not accept the responsibility that their players had the opportunity throughout the two-legged tie to make a refereeing mistake irrelevant, and they weren't good enough to do so. Tough luck. Move on, and stop from turning into a joke in world footballing circles. Because they're on that road already.el grapadura2009-12-01 12:00:30
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
only one point to make.
 
Those play-offs should never be seeded. its wrong whether it happened in 06 or not.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
only one point to make.
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Those play-offs should never be seeded. its wrong whether it happened in 06 or not.


I agree in principle that the final play-offs should not be seeded.

But it's also wrong for the FAI to claim they got shafted by the seeding when it was plain to pretty much everyone that that's the road FIFA started going down already in the previous qualifying cycle.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I dont agree with the point saying "Ireland had 210 minutes to score another goal". Everything else I do though.
If Ireland had that long to score another goal, so did france. If a world cup final is 1-1 deep into extra time and someone is awarded a penalty even though they dived, is it fair to say the other team was cheated out of a penalty shootout? Probably, yes it is
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