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So why are the current crop of ex-players making bad managers?

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almost 12 years ago

Just read that Sami Hyypia is facing the chop, (ok it's in the Mail but even so). On paper you would have though he should succeed, fairly bright in interviews an intelligent footballer, etc.

So why aren't the majority ex-players stepping up to be be decent managers? 



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almost 12 years ago

BEcause they require different skills

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almost 12 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:

Just read that Sami Hyypia is facing the chop, (ok it's in the Mail but even so). On paper you would have though he should succeed, fairly bright in interviews an intelligent footballer, etc.

So why aren't the majority ex-players stepping up to be be decent managers? 

He hasn't completed all his coaching badges and was co-manager last season. I think he may be a bit green on the managerial side of things. 
I suppose it could be similar to a young player that technically looks very good but might not have the physique or mental approach yet.
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almost 12 years ago

I'm just wondering as you'd assume that with the coaching system being professionalized with it's badges and training etc you'd expect ex-players to come out better equipped than they did in the past, but it don't seem the case or are they just more visible these days?


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almost 12 years ago


Is it just the current crop? A lot of the top managers were good players without being exceptional

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almost 12 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:

I'm just wondering as you'd assume that with the coaching system being professionalized with it's badges and training etc you'd expect ex-players to come out better equipped than they did in the past, but it don't seem the case or are they just more visible these days?


But then it also means everyone is coming out better equipped. A managers job is then measured up relative to other managers who also have the same badges and training, in which case the above points are still a good explanation. 

Allegedly

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almost 12 years ago

This reminds me of that great Arrigo Sacchi quote: 'You don't have to have been a horse to be a good jockey'.

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almost 12 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:

Just read that Sami Hyypia is facing the chop, (ok it's in the Mail but even so). On paper you would have though he should succeed, fairly bright in interviews an intelligent footballer, etc.

So why aren't the majority ex-players stepping up to be be decent managers? 


You can't have a dip in form in the modern game.

Look at Steve Clarke- sure the Baggies would be doing better if he was still there. Fergie would have been sacked before he even got his side at United sorted out. Almost was anyway.

Thought Hypia was doing ok at the start of the season. They're fourth in the league, but I guess they thought they were up to putting in a challenge at the start of the season. 



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almost 12 years ago
martinb wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:

Just read that Sami Hyypia is facing the chop, (ok it's in the Mail but even so). On paper you would have though he should succeed, fairly bright in interviews an intelligent footballer, etc.

So why aren't the majority ex-players stepping up to be be decent managers? 


You can't have a dip in form in the modern game.

Look at Steve Clarke- sure the Baggies would be doing better if he was still there. Fergie would have been sacked before he even got his side at United sorted out. Almost was anyway.

Thought Hypia was doing ok at the start of the season. They're fourth in the league, but I guess they thought they were up to putting in a challenge at the start of the season. 


More about Hypia- gone....


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almost 12 years ago
martinb wrote:
martinb wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:

Just read that Sami Hyypia is facing the chop, (ok it's in the Mail but even so). On paper you would have though he should succeed, fairly bright in interviews an intelligent footballer, etc.

So why aren't the majority ex-players stepping up to be be decent managers? 


You can't have a dip in form in the modern game.

Look at Steve Clarke- sure the Baggies would be doing better if he was still there. Fergie would have been sacked before he even got his side at United sorted out. Almost was anyway.

Thought Hypia was doing ok at the start of the season. They're fourth in the league, but I guess they thought they were up to putting in a challenge at the start of the season. 


http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/bundesliga/id/664?cc=3436

More about Hypia- gone....

He got chopped because he is on the fourth spot in the Bundesliga, behind powerhouse likes Munich, Dortmund and Schalke. Plus got kicked out of the Champions league. That is failure on the highest possible level, can't really blame him for being no a decent coach.
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