New owner and a new manager at O'M
Bill Tuiloma (Charlotte FC | USA)
Feel Tuiloma might suffer the same fate as Rojas did. Original manager gets sacked soon after arriving. Then a litany of replacements since. Think this is number six for him.
Knowing Rudi Garcia as I do, as a former Roma manager, I seriously doubt that Tuiloma will suit his style which he is incredibly rigid about and incapable of modifying.
Yes, I'm bitter! :-)
Knowing Rudi Garcia as I do, as a former Roma manager, I seriously doubt that Tuiloma will suit his style which he is incredibly rigid about and incapable of modifying.
Yes, I'm bitter! :-)
So Enzo, when were you Roma's manager? :)
Knowing Rudi Garcia as I do, as a former Roma manager, I seriously doubt that Tuiloma will suit his style which he is incredibly rigid about and incapable of modifying.
Yes, I'm bitter! :-)
So Enzo, when were you Roma's manager? :)
In my little dreams...
Yes I think Bill will struggle now at the club. There were a few rumours that Bielsa was going to return as manager. Bielsa signed Bill so it would have been a more hopeful omen for him.
The new owner McCourt has said he wants Marseille to be playing in the Champions League every year and is going to spend 200 million euros on players over the next few years. I would expect some very good players to arrive....Bills days could be numbered.
Garcia had a great coaching record in France and he took Roma to two consecutive second places in Italy before it all turned to custard in his last year and he was sacked. He knows French football very well so should get Marseille back on top again.
As for Bill...it looks like another Rojas situation. Signed by one manager then losing out when new managers arrive. IMO he is still a good enough footballer to hold down a squad place in a lower level Ligue1 side. He just needs someone who believes in him and gives him a shot. At 21 he still could develop into a very very good pro DM. It would be a disaster if he came back to the A-League now. He just needs a lucky break
Yes I think Bill will struggle now at the club. There were a few rumours that Bielsa was going to return as manager. Bielsa signed Bill so it would have been a more hopeful omen for him.
The new owner McCourt has said he wants Marseille to be playing in the Champions League every year and is going to spend 200 million euros on players over the next few years. I would expect some very good players to arrive....Bills days could be numbered.
Garcia had a great coaching record in France and he took Roma to two consecutive second places in Italy before it all turned to custard in his last year and he was sacked. He knows French football very well so should get Marseille back on top again.
As for Bill...it looks like another Rojas situation. Signed by one manager then losing out when new managers arrive. IMO he is still a good enough footballer to hold down a squad place in a lower level Ligue1 side. He just needs someone who believes in him and gives him a shot. At 21 he still could develop into a very very good pro DM. It would be a disaster if he came back to the A-League now. He just needs a lucky break
The trouble with Garcia at Roma was, yes, he did very well at the outset but once everyone else worked out how to unpick his tactics he was done. There was no ability to adapt. Be interesting to see how he goes at Marseille. Either the other coaches will know how to beat him and do it or he may have grown as a coach and learned from past mistakes. I hope it's the latter because there's no doubt he's a really nice guy.
If the new owner decides to spend big on players, Bill should be good enough to find a place at another Ligue 1 club - it's not the English Premier League and many clubs are actually quite small in terms of their budgets.
A club like Guingamp managed by Antoine Kombouare, a fellow Pacific Islander (from New Caledonia) would be a good fit for Bill.
Fifth in Ligue 1 at present (led the table early season) and seven places above Marseilles ! So he'd be shifting to a better club !
If the new owner decides to spend big on players, Bill should be good enough to find a place at another Ligue 1 club - it's not the English Premier League and many clubs are actually quite small in terms of their budgets.
A club like Guingamp managed by Antoine Kombouare, a fellow Pacific Islander (from New Caledonia) would be a good fit for Bill.
Fifth in Ligue 1 at present (led the table early season) and seven places above Marseilles ! So he'd be shifting to a better club !
If the new owner decides to spend big on players, Bill should be good enough to find a place at another Ligue 1 club - it's not the English Premier League and many clubs are actually quite small in terms of their budgets.
A club like Guingamp managed by Antoine Kombouare, a fellow Pacific Islander (from New Caledonia) would be a good fit for Bill.
Fifth in Ligue 1 at present (led the table early season) and seven places above Marseilles ! So he'd be shifting to a better club !
So even though Bill failed at a Division 3 club last season, he should join a club performing better than his current club?
A bit like saying that some ugly bird gave me the flick, so I should now go and see what Beyoncé is up too?
If the new owner decides to spend big on players, Bill should be good enough to find a place at another Ligue 1 club - it's not the English Premier League and many clubs are actually quite small in terms of their budgets.
A club like Guingamp managed by Antoine Kombouare, a fellow Pacific Islander (from New Caledonia) would be a good fit for Bill.
Fifth in Ligue 1 at present (led the table early season) and seven places above Marseilles ! So he'd be shifting to a better club !
So even though Bill failed at a Division 3 club last season, he should join a club performing better than his current club?
A bit like saying that some ugly bird gave me the flick, so I should now go and see what Beyoncé is up too?
Go for it mate.
If the new owner decides to spend big on players, Bill should be good enough to find a place at another Ligue 1 club - it's not the English Premier League and many clubs are actually quite small in terms of their budgets.
A club like Guingamp managed by Antoine Kombouare, a fellow Pacific Islander (from New Caledonia) would be a good fit for Bill.
Fifth in Ligue 1 at present (led the table early season) and seven places above Marseilles ! So he'd be shifting to a better club !
So even though Bill failed at a Division 3 club last season, he should join a club performing better than his current club?
A bit like saying that some ugly bird gave me the flick, so I should now go and see what Beyoncé is up too?
Despite playing well in his international appearances for the All Whites, Marseille continue to not give Tuiloma any gametime, even in the League Cup. Tuiloma has featured on the bench once this season and every other match he hasn't even been in the matchday squad.
Marseille's next League Cup (Coupe de la Ligue) match will be on 13 December away to Ligue 2 team Sochaux. Perhaps a chance for at least some gametime.
Despite playing well in his international appearances for the All Whites, Marseille continue to not give Tuiloma any gametime, even in the League Cup. Tuiloma has featured on the bench once this season and every other match he hasn't even been in the matchday squad.
Marseille's next League Cup (Coupe de la Ligue) match will be on 13 December away to Ligue 2 team Sochaux. Perhaps a chance for at least some gametime.
Bill did not get any time on the field for the Cup game even though the coach fielded a largely second tier team. Unfortunately for him it appears the new coach Garcia does not think Bill is at the level for the first team squad at the moment. Its tough for Bill as the OM central midfield has plenty of good players. Lassana Diarra is still at the club and the new CM Vainquer they signed from A S Roma looks a very good player.
Things have changed at the club with the new American owner. There will be 200 million spent on new players. In central midfield several names have be mentioned. Obi Mikel from Chelsea is finishing at Chelsea end of season and OM are after him. Also the AS Roma and Dutch national captain Strootman is also a target. Plus the new OM director of football Zubi(ex Barcelona football director) is chasing some good Spanish midfielders.
The reality for Bill is that he won't get a look in at the club with this level of recruitment. I expect they will try and sell him at the end of this season(he still has a year on his OM contract) Hopefully a lower level Div1 club could be interested. IMO he is more likely to go on a "free" and will get picked up by a Div2 team the season after.
Bill has played 810 minutes for the reserve team this season(France 4th Div) The club awards "stars" for performances of reserve game players(3, 2,1 stars per game) Bill is not in the top 10 reserve team players for stars awarded. IMO he is a good player. He just needs time to develop.....unfortunately European pro football is ruthless. Time is a commodity in short supply
Time to come to the Nix.
the timing is actually good for the Nix next year if we lose Roly to City. We need a DM and I think it could work for both Bill and the Nix.
Surely tuiloma will try for a euro gig where he can get regular game time before considering the Nix: France, Holland, Belgium, Bundesliga2?
Surely tuiloma will try for a euro gig where he can get regular game time before considering the Nix: France, Holland, Belgium, Bundesliga2?
Issue is on what basis would anyone sign him?
Surely tuiloma will try for a euro gig where he can get regular game time before considering the Nix: France, Holland, Belgium, Bundesliga2?
There's the rumored January signing in the other thread.
Another holding midfielder linked
I know it appears highly unlikely he will get a look in at OM now, but he still has another season on his contract and I reckon at his age he will try for another euro club via loan or sale - he's a capped international who's been on the fringe at OM without cracking it - I think that will get him a gig somewhere. Perhaps there is some nix tinted glasses at play here or someone will mention Rojas. Hindsight is wonderful and we all know Rojas should have headed to a less physical league but is he heading back to Europe because he scores a few goals in the A league? I think not. If he was an AFC regustered player, I could see Rojas in Japan though. My pick for Bill is france or Belgium or Switzerland.
Surely tuiloma will try for a euro gig where he can get regular game time before considering the Nix: France, Holland, Belgium, Bundesliga2?
He didn't get much game time in the third tier of French football, 174min for Strasbourg. He has spent most of his time in the 5th and 4th tier of French football. If he was to come back and get regular game time in the first team with the 'Nix, that would be a big step in the right direction for his professional career.
Surely tuiloma will try for a euro gig where he can get regular game time before considering the Nix: France, Holland, Belgium, Bundesliga2?
He didn't get much game time in the third tier of French football, 174min for Strasbourg. He has spent most of his time in the 5th and 4th tier of French football. If he was to come back and get regular game time in the first team with the 'Nix, that would be a big step in the right direction for his professional career.
Looks like Bill may go on loan to local Marseille club Groupe sportif Consolat (sometimes referred to as Marseille Consolat) who play in the Championnat National, the third tier of French football.
Source:
http://www.footmarseille.com/news-34902/mercato-andonian-et-tuiloma-se-rapprochent-de-consolat.html
Google Translate below:
Mercato: Andonian and Tuiloma move closer to Consolat
Om facebook
In its edition of the day, La Provence reveals that OM has begun discussions with Consolat, about the loans of Gaël Andonian and Bill Tuiloma.
The two players, twenty-one years old, have not made the slightest appearance in the first team since the beginning of the season. They could therefore benefit from the presence of the Phocéen club in National to regain playing time and continue their learning. Last year, the Armenian international (13 selections) had been loaned to Dijon, in Ligue 2. He had scored 2 goals in 6 games in the competition. This rumor is proof that relations have improved considerably, between the leaders of both clubs
Probably all things considered this would be an OK move for Bill. Consulat are currently 12 in Div 3 France. Ok that is not a great level but Bill struggled to get game time with Strasbourg last year in Div3. He has zero chance of cracking the OM first team so hopefully at least he might get plenty of game time with Consulat.
Last year they just missed getting promoted to Div2(by one point) Hopefully Bill can get into the starting side, play regularly and develop his game. Considering Bills age and current ability a career in Div2 France would be a good outcome. If he played Div2 or 3 for a few years and really developed his game he would be in the shop window for a promotion to a bigger club.
Tuiloma continues to play for OM II in French 4th Division (CFA Group D). Latest game a 0-0 draw verus Hyeres with Tuiloma getting a yellow card.
Looks like proposed move to Marseille Consolat has come to nought?
He's played 12 games for OM II this season, and only featured in one match day squad for the first team - an unused sub back in August last year.
Time for Bill to move on from OM.
What's the latest on Tuiloma? Still playing for the reserves?
Man we need to get this guy to the Nix imo.
What's the latest on Tuiloma? Still playing for the reserves?
Man we need to get this guy to the Nix imo.
Sure he could get a decent gig at another place, low divison english teams would be a good one.
He's played 19 games for OM II this season, and scored 1 goal. Again time to move on to somewhere else.
Confeds Cup could be his shopping window.
Season finished for OM II, with Tuiloma playing 22 games in the CFA (4th Div) Group D. OM II placed 10th out of the 16 sides.
Where to now?
Season finished for OM II, with Tuiloma playing 22 games in the CFA (4th Div) Group D. OM II placed 10th out of the 16 sides.
Where to now?
Unattached FC. We need one of those for the Confeds Cup. No way can we field an AW squad without one!!!
I think Bill has one more year left on his Marseille contract(might be wrong on this)
Anyway if he stays he will not move out of the Reserves. The club has a 200 million euro budget for recruiting this off season as the new owners move toward their plan to get the club back into the the top echelons in Europe(they have qualified for the Europa league next season) Strong rumours are they are looking at the Dutch international Strootman as a DM.
There is highly likely that with all the new recruits coming in that there will be a big clean out of unneeded players right across the club. As he won't really be part of the clubs plan for the future they might try and move Bill on. The trouble is even though Bill has played the second most number of minutes for the reserves, it is Div4 level. It is possible that Marseille might try and get and get him a gig with another club...maybe Div2. But he is still a young DM in development. When he was loaned out to Div2 Strasbourg he couldnt crack the first team(shame because Strasbourg have just been promoted to div1)
If Marseille can't find someone to take him they might just cut him. In which case his best prospect might be back in the A-League. Hard to say how he would go as a Nix player. I have seen him play a few times for the Reserves. He plays a simple, compact low error game. Makes his passes and tackles and distributes quite well. Might be ideal to replace Lia?. However if the Nix want him they better get a move on. The French transfer window opens in a week or so and things might move quickly.
The Nix aren't going to pay for a transfer (or at least not much), they'd want a loan or a free.
The Nix aren't going to pay for a transfer (or at least not much), they'd want a loan or a free.
You are right..... however if Marseille cant get anyone to buy him then they might let him go on a free. However the transition time to a new Nix coach might delay any move
If Marseille are not interested in keeping him around, they could give him to the Nix on a free loan and make the Nix pay for his wages (or subsidize them to a degree) - this is pretty standard in world football
The problem is (I think) that his full wages at Marseille come out of the salary cap and not what the Phoenix pay him, so it depends on what he's on over there as to how worthwhile that arangement is.
Or the Marseille owners could just buy the club and they can ignore transfer and salary caps like City do.
Or the Marseille owners could just buy the club and they can ignore transfer and salary caps like City do.
I, for one, just want to go on the record and say I'd be perfectly okay with this
I think Bill has one more year left on his Marseille contract(might be wrong on this)
Anyway if he stays he will not move out of the Reserves. The club has a 200 million euro budget for recruiting this off season as the new owners move toward their plan to get the club back into the the top echelons in Europe(they have qualified for the Europa league next season) Strong rumours are they are looking at the Dutch international Strootman as a DM.
There is highly likely that with all the new recruits coming in that there will be a big clean out of unneeded players right across the club. As he won't really be part of the clubs plan for the future they might try and move Bill on. The trouble is even though Bill has played the second most number of minutes for the reserves, it is Div4 level. It is possible that Marseille might try and get and get him a gig with another club...maybe Div2. But he is still a young DM in development. When he was loaned out to Div2 Strasbourg he couldnt crack the first team(shame because Strasbourg have just been promoted to div1)
If Marseille can't find someone to take him they might just cut him. In which case his best prospect might be back in the A-League. Hard to say how he would go as a Nix player. I have seen him play a few times for the Reserves. He plays a simple, compact low error game. Makes his passes and tackles and distributes quite well. Might be ideal to replace Lia?. However if the Nix want him they better get a move on. The French transfer window opens in a week or so and things might move quickly.
Any rumours Austin10//11? Playing international friendlies and confeds right now can't hurt. Hope he finds a gig in Europe. If OM don't sell him this window, he's on a free, right?
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Any rumours Austin10//11? Playing international friendlies and confeds right now can't hurt. Hope he finds a gig in Europe. If OM don't sell him this window, he's on a free, right?
Don't know if I believe that by playing Confeds Cup then Bill will be in the shop window. Clubs have extensive scouting networks, and if he was on anyones radar they would have seen him playing (or not playing, as the case may be) for Marseille or Strasbourg.
We were unbeaten at WC2010, and only Reid got picked up - but I'm sure clubs were aware of him beforehand.